response after bringing cards out of the shadows

By thorin_81, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hi!

After a card comes out of the shadows who has the first opportunity to trigger a response?

If I look at page 25 of the faq, it seems that the player to the left of the person who bring the card out of shadows has the first opportunity.

Who gets the first opportunity to play a
response?
If the response is to a player action, the player
to the left of the person who initiated the
action has the first opportunity to respond.
Response opportunity then passes clockwise
around the table. Note that responses to
bringing a card out of Shadows are handled in
this fashion, with the player to the left of the
person who brought a card out of Shadows
having the first response opportunity.

But then if you look at the flowchart and you can see that bringing a card out of the shadows is considered a framework action, so the first response should be of the first player.

What is the correct fashion "to handle" out of the shadows responses?

Thanks

Edited by thorin_81

The text you quote from Page 25 is the correct way to handle it. Yes, it's confusing because Shadows is shown as a Framework Event within an FAW; however, whenever the text of a rule contradicts the flowchart... go with the text. The flowchart is merely a guide - the textual content of the FAQ clarifies and provides detail where the flowchart cannot does not.

Edited by doulos2k

thank you very much!

Hi!

After a card comes out of the shadows who has the first opportunity to trigger a response?

If I look at page 25 of the faq, it seems that the player to the left of the person who bring the card out of shadows has the first opportunity.

Who gets the first opportunity to play a
response?
If the response is to a player action, the player
to the left of the person who initiated the
action has the first opportunity to respond.
Response opportunity then passes clockwise
around the table. Note that responses to
bringing a card out of Shadows are handled in
this fashion, with the player to the left of the
person who brought a card out of Shadows
having the first response opportunity.

But then if you look at the flowchart and you can see that bringing a card out of the shadows is considered a framework action, so the first response should be of the first player.

What is the correct fashion "to handle" out of the shadows responses?

Thanks

The shadows rules are specifically written to override the normal framework action timing chart. Therefore, go with the Shadow rules written out text.