How many Jedi during this period?

By peterstepon, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Bought Edge of Empire. Love it. I am almost glad it was not in PDF format since it does feel good to have it in my hands when I flip through.

I had a quick question about the number or Force users and Jedi during this period. I am not 100% sure what period the game takes place during but I assume it is around the time of the battle of Yavin. Please clarify for me as I was not able to find a time reference.

Regaridng Jedi, I like how they have a force user character template. I understand that at this time Jedi are incredibly rare. After order 66 and the hunts that took place afterwards, I get the impression that, canonically, there must be less than 100 left in the Galaxy. Many of them furthermore have abandoned the Jedi order or turned to the dark side. There are some Force Users but many are not trained as Jedi because there are no mentors alive to train them. When Obi-Wan and Yoda train Luke I believe that when they say he is the last remaining Jedi it is a literal truth because he is the only one with classical jedi training.

At the end of the book there is an antagonist who is a lost and fallen Jedi. The previous D20 game suggested that a possible Jedi character could be a "failed" jedi, who was a jedi who flunked out of the Jedi academy and for that reason was not targeted during Order 66. I am curious how the 3rd installment in the games that Fantasy Flight plans to release will pan out. If that game focuses on Jedi, maybe the characters could be the last Jedi in the galaxy that they know of.

My StarWars Canon is a little rusty so any help is appreciated.

Bought Edge of Empire. Love it. I am almost glad it was not in PDF format since it does feel good to have it in my hands when I flip through.

I had a quick question about the number or Force users and Jedi during this period. I am not 100% sure what period the game takes place during but I assume it is around the time of the battle of Yavin. Please clarify for me as I was not able to find a time reference.

Regaridng Jedi, I like how they have a force user character template. I understand that at this time Jedi are incredibly rare. After order 66 and the hunts that took place afterwards, I get the impression that, canonically, there must be less than 100 left in the Galaxy. Many of them furthermore have abandoned the Jedi order or turned to the dark side. There are some Force Users but many are not trained as Jedi because there are no mentors alive to train them. When Obi-Wan and Yoda train Luke I believe that when they say he is the last remaining Jedi it is a literal truth because he is the only one with classical jedi training.

At the end of the book there is an antagonist who is a lost and fallen Jedi. The previous D20 game suggested that a possible Jedi character could be a "failed" jedi, who was a jedi who flunked out of the Jedi academy and for that reason was not targeted during Order 66. I am curious how the 3rd installment in the games that Fantasy Flight plans to release will pan out. If that game focuses on Jedi, maybe the characters could be the last Jedi in the galaxy that they know of.

My StarWars Canon is a little rusty so any help is appreciated.

there's probably 200 at most, edge takes place during the dark times I think.

don't think the agricorp was targeted, force sensitivity obviously goes beyond orders so they're could be untrained people out there.

some masters survived for another 0-150 years after Order 66,

while the empire kept an eye out, after the initial Order 66 the hunt for Jedi wasn't as focused(Star Wars Purge shows Palpatine going "don't worry about them" and Vader going i'm going to go kill them anyways). so if they kept a low profile, it's possible the empire missed them.

The game takes place just shortly after the Battle of Yavin. I remember reading this, though I honestly don't remember where. On the other hand, the book does explicitly state that Alderaan has been destroyed which takes it out of the Dark Times and into the Rebellion era.

I believe 120-140 is the number that's been counted from the EU. But canon shouldn't really stand too much in the way of a good story.

Not much at all is known about Force and Destiny except for the name.

It depends on how much of the Expanded Universe you permit into your games.

Since this is the Rebellion Era, the number of surviving Jedi are very small, ranging from a couple hundred to a couple dozen, with most of them being Padawans, a small number of Knights, and very few Jedi Masters.

If you're going strictly by the movies, then there's only two at the time EotE is generally set; Luke (who's not much of a Jedi at this point) and Yoda (who is hanging out on Dagobah which nobody really knows about), with Kenobi having died on the Death Star just prior to the Battle of Yavin.

The timeframe for EotE is setup in the crawler that you'll find after the Table of Contents in the Core Rulebook.

Basically, it's shortly after the Battle of Yavin, but before Empire Strikes Back.

Cheers!

Meaning the only true Jedi left is Yoda. Luke is a Force Sensitive who happens to have gotten some basic training from Obi-Wan, and will soon get more training from Yoda.

That being said, in the EU, Jedi seem to crop up everywhere as needed, so if you need a Jedi in your game post-Battle of Yavin, go for it.

There are as few as two or as many as you need. There are worlds with billions of individuals on them and tens to hundreds of thousands of worlds populated, so, one could easily be hiding on any world you need them to. Or, like what Luke found after RotJ (obviously EU stuff) he found a number of Force-sensitives and some that had abilities to begin rebuilding the Academy from. Beings like Corran Horn who was a CorSec officer on Corellia who's sensitivity allowed him to realize when he was being lied to, but until Luke came along he didn't realize he was using the Force.

As stated, time is after the Battle of Yavin but it sounds like pre-Hoth. You can, of course, slide the era around as needed, but that's the "canon" option.

And again, as stated, the EU has made tweaks as-needed regarding the number of Jedi running around. Force-Sensitive is a WHOLE different kettle of fish, and people tend to have a talent or two without training.

There are also Jedi enthusiasts that may or may not be Force Sensitive, and according to the Tapani Sector books from WEG, there are still people who hide and treasure the remaining Jedi Holocrons. That said, there are plenty of ways your Force Sensitive character could learn how to become a Jedi. . .in a way, of course.

Another thing to note: this ignores the idea of your Mystic/Force Adept. These are the people who are considered "backward" by most standards and will have Force training without knowing that it is the Force. The witches of Dathomir are a good example of this, as well as some tribes/religious beliefs of the Kel Dor.

Finally, as previously mentioned multiple times, Jedi seem to crop up as needed. There always seems to be a "failed" Jedi, a Jedi-in-Exile, a survivor of Order 66, a clone of a Jedi (Starkiller, X2, etc) whenever we need them.

So if you want one in your game, add them and find some reason for them to be added to the canon!

Re: the Tapani lore from WEG... don't forget about lightfoils! :D Though that may well lead your party on a wild goose chase if they're not aware of the truth behold said lightfoils...

There are exactly as many Jedi as are needed for your plot.

There ARE Jedi out there, yes. Yoda and K'kruk are certainly the two most prominent Jedi during this period, although neither are "active", per se. Most of the remaining Jedi are suppressing their powers or can no longer follow the Jedi Code due to the circumstances. Many have even fallen the dark side. Those who haven't are still unlikely to support the Rebellion for fear of endangering the movement with their presence; in fact, they probably think the Rebellion is a fool's errand despite the destruction of the Death Star. (After all, if the Empire was able to all but wipe out the Jedi, what hope could a ragtag band of insurgents and dissenters possibly have?)

Besides Jedi, there are PLENTY of other Force users out there complete with masters. Discounting the Lost Tribe of the Sith out in the Unknown Regions, there are also the Witches of Dathomir (including the Nightsister and Nightbrother clans), the Baran Do Sages, the Korunnai, the Aiing Tii, the Shapers of Kro Var, the Wardens of the Sky, and many others. If you want people with lightsabers, you also have the Imperial Inquisitors -- who should have been included in the Core Rulebook! -- the Jensaarai, and of course the odd "dark Jedi" trained by either Palpatine or Vader (Mara Jade, Starkiller, and others). They don't have lightsabers, but you might also want to consider using the Prophets of the Dark Side as villains. Look these things up on Wookieepedia! You're bound to get some cool ideas.

Personally, when it comes to finding other Jedi I'm forcing my players to get a little creative. The former Jedi youngling of the group -- a Wookiee bodyguard -- REALLY wants to find a lightsaber. In order for that to happen, he will have to first either steal one from Imperial Inquisitor or the leader of the "Neon Skull Gang" (a gang of death stick dealers I created). However if he wants to acquire the lightsaber SKILL... well, that's another matter entirely. He would need formal instruction.

For that to happen, he is going to have to turn either an Imperial Inquisitor or the leader of the Neon Skull Gang away from the dark side. I MIGHT throw Aasaj Ventress into the game for a session or two so that the player can pick up the 1st rank of the Lightsaber skill, but after that he's going to need to work pretty hard to get skill in a lightsaber if he ever does at all.

Don't forget that Joruus C'baoth is kickin' it somewhere in the galaxy during this time.

I started a game with five kids that range from 8 to 12, as well as the other dad (I GM and have 2 boys, he's a PC with 3 boys). It's fun to see how they work thru all of the things I throw at them, but as you can imagine, they all wanted to play Jedi.

Since they are Star Wars fans and have a little understanding of it, they do realize that Luke started out with very little Jedi training and had to work and train hard to become one ... so what worked with these several young ones (and 1 dad) is that I gifted all of them the Force Sensitive for free to start the game on the condition that they could convince me of a back story (with relative detail to their ages and a little input from the adults about the circumstances, i.e. -- Order 66 and so forth). After talking it over, they came up with a story about how they were all on a training mission on Tatooine (where I told them their story would begin) to learn their skills from a Master who left them to continue training while he went back to help with the disturbance he felt ... he hasn't come back for them. I thought it was creative enough and so I have a scruffy bunch of Bounty Hunters, Scouts, Smugglers, and Mechanics trying to make their way in the Outer Rim, who just so happen to all be Force Sensitives.

One of the reasons I allowed this and gave them the free talent tree is that while it also allows them to use some force powers and get into their characters (they're young so Star Wars = Jedi), while at the same time allows me to keep the pressure on them to think hard when and how they use those powers so they don't bring undue attention to themselves, which they will ... and that gives me even more options to expand the plot for our games.

So I guess in a nutshell, all of my rambling is meant to encourage you to use however may Force Sensitives you want in your games because it will allow you as the GM to constantly have some story and/or pressure to put on them ... and it allows them as PC's to play the game they want making it fun for them so they want to continue coming back for it.

Don't forget that Joruus C'baoth is kickin' it somewhere in the galaxy during this time.

In the Unknown Regions, stuck on one planet, and the Chiss don't even know he's there, despite it being a planet in their empire.

So yea, he's no use to anyone, nevermind now being a Dark Jedi and insane (so not really in a position to do much training).

I suppose this is just a repeat of the sentiments above, but yep it depends on what you personally call canon and what you mean by, "Jedi". Only movie canon vs. including all of the EU canon makes a big difference. Only officialy and fully trained in the force is a, "Jedi", versus any failed apprentice or force sensitive is a, "Jedi"? Depending on your answers, 1 to countless. :)

Don't forget that Joruus C'baoth is kickin' it somewhere in the galaxy during this time.

In the Unknown Regions, stuck on one planet, and the Chiss don't even know he's there, despite it being a planet in their empire.

So yea, he's no use to anyone, nevermind now being a Dark Jedi and insane (so not really in a position to do much training).

Joruus was always an insane Dark Jedi. Jorus was the Jedi he was cloned from.

Over 9000?