So what do you think....when will see an ally (or hero!?) version of Galadriel? She is one of my favourite characters and I was clearly hoping that she will appear in the new deluxe expansion / cycle...however, I cannot really see her fit in...?

IMO there is a problem with Galadriel ... she should be more powerfull than Gandalf, Saruman or Elrond ... and thats very difficult to happen without having a hero with a huge threat or an ally with a huge cost.

Also her stats are another prob the way I think of it, when Eowyn quests by 4 ... Galadriel should be more, shouldn't she ? And there are many more

I too hope we get her, but I find it to be difficult

hmm...I see you regard this issue from a more technical perspective and raise very valid points. On a side note, imho Eowyn is just to strong I was looking at her just yesterday! 4 Willpower with the potential to raise it by X (where X is number of players) is just too much? As you say, Galadriel had to have super-super-stats to give justice to her power in the setting... Ah, maybe, I won't get to behold her after all then...

I think there are many good ways to represent her well as a Hero. One idea I came up with:

Sphere: Spirit

Threat: 10

Will: 0

Attack: 1

Defense: 3

HP: 4

Noldor. Noble.

Refresh Action: Pay 1 resource from Galadriel's resource pool to Choose a player. Until the end of the round, reduce that player's threat by 10 for the purpose of engagement checks.

She may be powerful, but she's not outwardly active anymore. Questing is not really her thing. Nor is attack. Her main purpose is protection - for herself and others. Another idea:

Action: Exhaust Galadriel to shuffle the encounter deck.

On a side note, imho Eowyn is just to strong I was looking at her just yesterday! 4 Willpower with the potential to raise it by X (where X is number of players) is just too much?

i do not think eowyn is strong. good yes, strong...not as much as others. she can quest for 4, and at the very most, 8. however, get longbeard map maker and steward of gondor on a lore hero, mixed with a couple of other lore heroes...and he alone can easily quest with 15+ willpower per turn, without much set up really.

aragorn with the sword that was broken adds +1 willpower per character controlled by that player...i mean get that in outlands (which can quest 20+ willpower alone often) and you are getting into ridiculous territory.

as for galadriel i think we shall certainly see her. she is powerful but there are many ways to portray power. gandalf has a huge quick boost to the game, which can be game changing, but he needs to be used strategically. glorfindel is a solid hero all round and is a constant power, elrond is power at a high cost

galadriel i think will also be power at a high cost. i do not think we shall see her until the second saga pack....which isnt really that long, but we may be surprised if the rohan cycle looks to have lorien as a side theme

rich

I agree with rich here Nick. I don't think the power is a problem as much as the ability to properly represent it.

They divided Elrond from his ring and a portion of his power. Why wouldn't they do the same to Galadriel?

But I have to ask. Why do you think Lady Galadriel should be more powerful than Elrond?

But I have to ask. Why do you think Lady Galadriel should be more powerful than Elrond?

I'd guess because she is older, from the Years of the Trees, she's one of the Calaquendi (High Elves, Tareldar), had seen/lived in Valinor, and my favorite reason, though perhaps least valid, she's his Mother-in-law.

Really looking forward to an eventual Galadriel character. Also based on her illustrations of "the favor of the lady" and "galadrim's greeting" I hope Magali is the artist for her as well. Power wise I'm thinking she'll be similar to Elrond with strong stats, passive abilities, and then an associated Nenya attachment that gives a more direct ability

Man it has been at least 10 years since I read these books but I never got the feeling that being older qualifies you as more powerful. Furthermore Galadriel's power was tied up in Lorien somewhat like Tom Bombadil though she was certainly far more interested in what happened outside her borders than he. Besides what is power without action? Saruman was long the 'oldest' and 'wisest' of the wizarding order and look where that got him.

igoing back to the why this is all relevant, if they made elrond then I don't see why galadriel wouldn't be a possibility.

Here's how I would design the Lady Galadriel:

SPIRIT

Threat: 13

WP: 4

AT: 2

DF: 3

HP: 4

Response: After Galadriel exhausts to commit to a quest, each player lowers his threat by 1.

Action: Exhaust Galadriel and raise your threat by 1 to choose a player. That player looks at the top 5 cards of his deck and chooses 1 to put into his hand, shuffling the other cards back into his deck.

The thought here was that she should be an excellent quester, exceeding even Eowyn in that she has potential to reduce each player's threat every time she quests (which she should be doing). But she is a great defender as well at 3 DF. Attack is not bad either. She of course has a high threat, but through questing you can reduce it significantly.

I wanted to give her a second ability that highlights her power to look into the future (think Galadriel's mirror scene with Frodo) and bring great benefit to the whole team. So you can hold her back from questing (or unexpected courage her) to exhaust her and raise your threat by 1 for a powerful drawing capability that has an Imladris Stargazer/Master of the Forge flavor to it. In some ways this drawing power exceeds even Beravor's because you can pick the best one out of 5. But you only get one and you have to raise your threat so I don't think it makes Beravor obsolete.

Anyways, I am hoping we see her soon and that she is a power-house that rivals Glorfindel and Elrond.

Here's how I would design the Lady Galadriel:

SPIRIT

Threat: 13

WP: 4

AT: 2

DF: 3

HP: 4

Response: After Galadriel exhausts to commit to a quest, each player lowers his threat by 1.

Action: Exhaust Galadriel and raise your threat by 1 to choose a player. That player looks at the top 5 cards of his deck and chooses 1 to put into his hand, shuffling the other cards back into his deck.

The thought here was that she should be an excellent quester, exceeding even Eowyn in that she has potential to reduce each player's threat every time she quests (which she should be doing). But she is a great defender as well at 3 DF. Attack is not bad either. She of course has a high threat, but through questing you can reduce it significantly.

I wanted to give her a second ability that highlights her power to look into the future (think Galadriel's mirror scene with Frodo) and bring great benefit to the whole team. So you can hold her back from questing (or unexpected courage her) to exhaust her and raise your threat by 1 for a powerful drawing capability that has an Imladris Stargazer/Master of the Forge flavor to it. In some ways this drawing power exceeds even Beravor's because you can pick the best one out of 5. But you only get one and you have to raise your threat so I don't think it makes Beravor obsolete.

Anyways, I am hoping we see her soon and that she is a power-house that rivals Glorfindel and Elrond.

I like this "version" of Galadriel a lot. For me, somehow, a deck manipulating ability als almost an auto-include when it comes to Galadriel, since she is able to look into the future and just knows or has a fair clue what might wait around the next corner.

Probably it also makes sense to anticipate her with a ring like it was the case with Elrond!

Anyway, at the moment she is probably my most aniticpated character in the game and I really wonder whether we will see her even in this cycle already!

Here's how I would design the Lady Galadriel:

SPIRIT

Threat: 13

WP: 4

AT: 2

DF: 3

HP: 4

Response: After Galadriel exhausts to commit to a quest, each player lowers his threat by 1.

Action: Exhaust Galadriel and raise your threat by 1 to choose a player. That player looks at the top 5 cards of his deck and chooses 1 to put into his hand, shuffling the other cards back into his deck.

Her response or action you have suggested could be tied to her ring (Nenya?), the same way as Elrond's Vilya.

what i am looking forward to is the mirror.....it could be like the palantir only you have to attatch it to galadriel

OHHHHHHHHHH yeah. That'll be sweet Rich. Great thought. Even if the mirror is only an event, it will be super cool

I agree with rich here Nick. I don't think the power is a problem as much as the ability to properly represent it.

They divided Elrond from his ring and a portion of his power. Why wouldn't they do the same to Galadriel?

But I have to ask. Why do you think Lady Galadriel should be more powerful than Elrond?

just saw that ... as soon as the babies sleep i'll try to write an answer

My suggestion:

Galadriel

SPIRIT

Threat: 13

WP: 4

AT: 2

DF: 3

HP: 3

Action: Exhaust Galadriel to ready 2 other heroes (limit once per round)

Nenya, ring of water

Type: Attachment Sphere: Neutral

Cost: 2

Ring. Artifact.

Attach to Galadriel. She gains a [Lore] resource icon.

Action: Exhaust Galadriel and Nenya to choose a player(limit once per game), reduce that players threat by 10.

Resonse: After a character is declared as a defender, Exhaust Nenya to give that character a +2 [Defense] until the end of the phase.

Well, galadriel is a figure not so much involved in the main histories, but the myth following her justifies her being maybe the strongest living person in middle earth third age.

Tolkien himself thought her and gilgalad to be the mightiest of elves. She was famous for wisdom and her magic abilities tought maybe by melian, a maia. She destroyed dol guldur through magic once. Offcourse her age could add to her wisdom.

Thats why i believe her to be even stronger than Elrond (whom i admit i prefer as a character than the lady)

and she also led the elves across the icy wastes of wherever that was in the silmarillion.....i cannot remember as i am terrible when it comes to 1st age lore

You know I made the atrocious mistake of reading half of the silmarillion and then pausing for a month before continuing. Totally ruined the book for me. I wasn't willing to start over because it's not nearly as readable or enjoyable imho as the trilogy and especially not as enjoyable as the Hobbit. Furthermore, pausing that long in the middle of a book with names that foreign and random and of that number just ... confused.... me.... so..... much. I was also like 15 so that was also probably a problem.

Anyway, thanks for the explanation Nick, rich. If I had to stat her after that explanation I wouldn't give her more than 1 atk... 0 maybe even. def... that would be iffy too. 2 def sounds good to me, though I would hardly argue with 3. Channel all that magic and wisdom straight into Willpower and represent her abilities through unique effects just like Elrond. Frankly I will be SUPER excited to see any high threat Spirit character and I think Lady Galadriel is the best candidate so far for that honorable placement.

It's hard to account for the age of an immortal. I seem to recall that Galadriel defeated a balrog in single combat during the first age?

I heard Glorfindel was the only individual to ever manage such a feat.

yes it was glorfindel and he died in the attempt....actually the issue of glorfindel dieing and appearing in lotr posed quite a problem for tolkien.....

>_> LOL! really ? HAHAHAHA I hadn't picked up on that bit of lore.

I guess it was just Fortune or Fate that brought Glorfindel to Frodo's day

haha, yeah, if i remember correctly they were different people at first, then tolkien changed it that he was 'sent back'

That's why he has the "Light of Valinor" upon him.