There is no doubt in my mind that the imp capital ship will be an imperial class star destroyer.

Here are my reasons:

It's the only imp capital ship from the movies (other than Executor).

It fits in both the Tantive IV capture and rebel evac from Hoth.

It's recognizable.

So in my mind, there is little speculation other than how they are going to portray it scale-wise. What is eveyone else's thoughts? Is there a flaw in what I'm thinking?

p.s. I hope I'm wrong because the scale would be so out of whack it would really break the immersion for me. I don't mind at all that they changed the scale for the corvette and transport, I basically can't notice the difference, so don't jump on me for being a stickler for scale . But something like a 22" star destroyer would be a joke.

As much as i agree with you, I think we will see something like a 22" Star Destroyer, due to cost and being able to fit the model on a table, i'd love to be proven wrong and end up with a massive ship

Yea it will come sooner or later.. In one of the gencon videos the designer talked about it without a question about it.. The changed the scale forumla in order to provide us with capital ships.

Yeah I know exactly what you're talking about. He basically acknowledged in every way except saying it.

I'd be drastically disappointed if FFG did a Star Destroyer. They can get away with the CR90 because it's a slight reduction in scale to get it to the table. A miniaturized Star Destroyer would be pushing scale so far out of proportion that it would bring the game down to the level of attack wing, and scale issues is one of the big problems I have with that game.

What I would rather see is one of the myriad of Star Wars Spacecraft that are never depicted on screen, but are just as awesome in their own right as the CR90. The Lancer Frigate for instance, or the Strike Cruiser, or the IPV-1 are all Imperial-aligned craft that would be marvelous to see on the table which don't approach the scale of being Star Destroyers.

Frankly the highest I would hope for them to go is the Nebulon-B and B2 frigates. Even then, they would be hefty models.

I bet we see a Victory class Star Destroyer before an Imperial Class, Vic Class's were half the size of Imp class.

I said in the last thread I pretty much wasnt concerned about scale, and that was regarding the corvette model, which is, I think, still big enough to look like a legit big space ship. A star destroyer though isn't something we should see on table top anytime soon, Throws the scale off too much to make one in playable size.

I'm 99% sure we won't see star destroyer in X-wing. Shifting the scale by 1/2 is a little different than 1/6. I also don't think that the interview is any lead. Jason just mentioned star destroyer as a size comparison. SD is the first ship that comes to mind when somebody thinks of a ship larger than Tantive. I also don't think it would fit thematically. CR90 was an anti-fighter escort vessel and it may work in X-wing. SD's main purpouse was to attack larger ships or hit targets located on planet surface. It was pretty ineffective against enemy starfighters

so it carried several squadrons of Tie's to deal with them. So to be thematic in the gameplay SD should be more like an aircraft carrier.

If Star Destroyer's were introduced or considered it should be made as a totally different game with different scale.

Call it:

Star Wars: Capital Battles or something.

first expansion could be:

Star Wars: Capital Battles "It's a trap"

I fully give FFG all rights to build on this idea.

My thoughts on the Star Destroyer is that it wont work as a model but I can see it being used in scenario play. Maybe make a few gun placements that would represent the star destroyers flank and make one entire side of the play mat the star destroyer and have the rebels attacking it trying to destroy it while the imps haev to defend. THAT I can see working.

If the ISD would'nt come it would be very easy for them to say it in the video. they will release one. And thousands will buy it to make it a sucess

I guess it will be nearly the same size the revell pieces had in the early 90s . The Transports had also nearly the same size as the FFG ones. Just wait and see.. Most of the people that say NO also believed that Millenium Falcon will be the biggest ships ever.. So what?

I understand some people want to stay at the 100 point tournaments.. But for many others these small skirmishes get boring.. Star wars is more than this small battles. The game wants and will release many big ships . They will be bought, it will be fun to play some Epic battles.. they will come with upgrade cards for everyone.. Just to drug you.

This game will expand further. Leave it now or live with it :-)

As much as I agree with all of the above concerns about breaking the scale even further, I think we'll see star destroyers of some sort.

If a GR 75 Medium Transport is "iconic", how can you have Star Wars capital ships without a star destroyer? Hopefully they'll only give us a Victory Class or Interdictor cruiser, both 6x the size of the corvette (even if you decrease that for a "relative scale") is much better than twice that, whilst still having that unique "star destroyer" flair

I realize there is a bit of controversy about capital ships, and their sliding scale has made me think about this:

Wasn't it said that capital ships aren't for "normal" game play? That made me think that how the game is now is "standard" game play. One of the biggest competitive games out there currently is Magic; and at some of their big tournaments the format is not always standard. Basically, what I am saying here is that this allows FFG to hold true to everyone's beloved scale for the main part of the game, but some tournaments in the future would expand beyond everyone's "comfort zone," and see how well you do at other formats of the game.

Admittedly, I feel this is an incomplete thought, but for now, that is my two cents on the matter.

they are gonna do ships from the movies first. thus they will do a star destroyer. since from guessing that the one mode of play is to recreate the movies. the very first scene is a star destroyer with all its glory only makes sense

Yes, the Star Destroyer is the second ship seen in "A New Hope". The importance of its appearance was its contrast in size to the ship it was chasing. I can remember when as a kid I went and saw the movie for the first time. How incredibly huge it was. It seemed to take forever to clear the screen, when presented at the same scale of the Tantive IV.

That's why I'm so against the sliding scale. Star Destroyers aren't meant to fit on the same screen (or game mat) as much smaller ships. For all you proponents of the sliding scale for capital ships, do me a favor and watch that starting scene again. If you still don't care about the relative scale of these ships after that, then I'll give up trying to convince you otherwise.

That being said, the Star Destroyer is certainly the main staple of the Imperial Navy. These ships show up numerous times throughout the Trilogy. Building a mini for one seems impractical to me, but incorporating one into the game through other means is still viable and would allow the fighter emphasis of the game to remain the emphasis. I really hope FFG chooses to pursue this approach instead.

Actually there is a 1% doubt in your mind according to the thread title.

Actually there is a 1% doubt in your mind according to the thread title.

Where there is doubt, there is fear. Fear is the path to the dark Side.

Has anyone considered that this would be a great opportunity for FFG to actually introduce a new EU ship for the Empire? Isn't that the exact nature of the EU?

I know there's no indication that it would happen, and I know there'd be red tape with LFL. But look at something like Ansel Hsiao's (Fractalsponge) designs getting rolled into the EGtW. And FFG entry to EU could benefit both this game (bypassing the Star Destroyer issue entirely) and the EU itself; introducing "quality" fluff that could even be used by other projects. I'm always open to new ship designs that borrow the aesthetic from OT. Vigil-class corvette is an awesome example. Something along those lines that was a little smaller and had better scale-indicating visual cues would be perfect.

In addition to a new class of Imperial corvette, it wouldn't be unreasonable to introduce a new starfighter or two further down the road.

I'd rather see a Vigil or Assassin rather than a scaled down destroyer.

I know for sure that I have almost zero interest in a scaled Star Destroyer. The mostly-accurate scale of this game is one of the biggest reasons that I'm still dumping money into this thing. I'm not going to be able to afford a car-sized destroyer, though, and I can't imagine a scale flub that won't make the thing seem like an idiotic addition.

I don't claim to have any certainty one way or another, but I hope that everyone so sure the ISD is coming is completely wrong.

I also hope they don't do a Star Destroyer, for two reasons:

1. It would be stupid
2. I would buy it

Yeah, sadly the CR90 and GR-75 are just BARELY out of scale (like....10, 20 meters off maybe), an Imperial II Class Star Destroyer (the famous one from the movies) is 1,600 meters long in the movie...for that to be 1/270 scale it'd be impossibly large to make as a model and still be a reasonable price (somebody do the math for me, i'm terrible at it)

I'd rather see a Vigil or Assassin rather than a scaled down destroyer.

Me too, I would love to see SD minis, but think that if FFG do, it will be something like cruiser battle, a small but details start cruiser battle to each other with about the same rules.

It would be a bit over 19 feet long if at 1/270th scale.

It's, in my opinion, a really dumb idea. Knocking 10-20% of the total off I can stomach. Knocking off 95% of the size to put it on the table is terrible. What is the point of porting it in if you have to break literally everything about it to do it? You can't translate the weaponry, size, role, or ship compliment into X-wing in anything even remotely close to the actual ship.

We should all be asking them to design a NEW ship, or, mine an EU ship that fits the right scale, right role, and right armament so that we can have something exciting and unique to ourselves that doesn't require you to bash your head with a frying pan for 10 minutes to swallow on the table.

Ok, I know that is strongly worded, and to be fair I understand some people don't care and just love the ship and want to see it on the table to have fun with it however it comes, and that's fair enough. My initial thought remains though, even to them... what's the point? Why not just get yourself any old ISD model and have fun, while letting FFG focus on near-scale ships designed for the game?