B-wings are going to be required to be a 2-peg ship

By krechevskoy, in X-Wing

The ships having to remain on their stands in tourneys is a bit of an odd ruling, especially given the range of ship shapes colliding. It sure is amusing to picture using 4-6 pegs to get a falcon up and above the wings of a Tie fighter! What if you don't have that many spare large ship pegs with you? You're in big trouble then

I have only had the opportunity to play in the Kessel Run Tourney and I do not recall reading this ruling at that time. I also find it odd since they do not supply extra pegs.

The B-wing will rotate on the L-peg on the back. It doesn't seem to be glued in, or at least if it is it's not glued very well. I wouldn't try to rotate it frequently, but a quick turn to put it at an angle works just fine. I expect that a modeler who wanted to could easily pull the peg, sand it to loosen it, add magnets, and be set.

Edit: See later posts from rowdyoctopus on the wisdom of this. Looking more closely, he is certain correct that I was twisting the mount. As long as you don't overdo it, it seems to work - mine seems solid. But do so at your own risk!

Edited by Buhallin

The B-wing will rotate on the L-peg on the back. It doesn't seem to be glued in, or at least if it is it's not glued very well. I wouldn't try to rotate it frequently, but a quick turn to put it at an angle works just fine. I expect that a modeler who wanted to could easily pull the peg, sand it to loosen it, add magnets, and be set.

I don't know if that will work because the peg on other miniatures for the socket piece is not round. It has a flat spot so the socket will align correctly for the pegs that attach to the base.

I am surprised no one else has said this: fly the B-Wings upside down and they instantly become a 1 peg ship. Infact, I am going to do this just to mess with people.

The B-wing will rotate on the L-peg on the back. It doesn't seem to be glued in, or at least if it is it's not glued very well. I wouldn't try to rotate it frequently, but a quick turn to put it at an angle works just fine. I expect that a modeler who wanted to could easily pull the peg, sand it to loosen it, add magnets, and be set.

I don't know if that will work because the peg on other miniatures for the socket piece is not round. It has a flat spot so the socket will align correctly for the pegs that attach to the base.

Didn't mean the standard peg - meant the part of the L which plugs into the back of the ship. There doesn't seem to be any keying where the L connects - I was able to rotate mine around it. It was tight, but there was no sound of breaking (and hence no crying). If you pulled the L piece from the back of the ship, you could magnetize the connection between the L and the ship so it would rotate freely.

Edit: See later posts from rowdyoctopus on the wisdom of this. Looking more closely, he is certain correct that I was twisting the mount. As long as you don't overdo it, it seems to work - mine seems solid. But do so at your own risk!

Edited by Buhallin

Baron Fel + Push The Limit + Stealth Device = No More Falcon. Choose an evade as your action, PTL to give yourself a focus and then acquire a second focus as your bonus for stressing yourself. I pretty much followed a Lando Falcon around the board until I blew it up.

The B-wing will rotate on the L-peg on the back. It doesn't seem to be glued in, or at least if it is it's not glued very well. I wouldn't try to rotate it frequently, but a quick turn to put it at an angle works just fine. I expect that a modeler who wanted to could easily pull the peg, sand it to loosen it, add magnets, and be set.

I don't know if that will work because the peg on other miniatures for the socket piece is not round. It has a flat spot so the socket will align correctly for the pegs that attach to the base.

Didn't mean the standard peg - meant the part of the L which plugs into the back of the ship. There doesn't seem to be any keying where the L connects - I was able to rotate mine around it. It was tight, but there was no sound of breaking (and hence no crying). If you pulled the L piece from the back of the ship, you could magnetize the connection between the L and the ship so it would rotate freely.

Ah, I was thinking they would do the same thing to the elbow piece that fits into the back of the B-Wing, putting a flat spot on the pin for proper alignment of the stem for the base. If it's a round peg then I see no problem with magnetising the B-Wing to have it rotate.

The B-wing will rotate on the L-peg on the back. It doesn't seem to be glued in, or at least if it is it's not glued very well. I wouldn't try to rotate it frequently, but a quick turn to put it at an angle works just fine. I expect that a modeler who wanted to could easily pull the peg, sand it to loosen it, add magnets, and be set.

I don't know if that will work because the peg on other miniatures for the socket piece is not round. It has a flat spot so the socket will align correctly for the pegs that attach to the base.

Didn't mean the standard peg - meant the part of the L which plugs into the back of the ship. There doesn't seem to be any keying where the L connects - I was able to rotate mine around it. It was tight, but there was no sound of breaking (and hence no crying). If you pulled the L piece from the back of the ship, you could magnetize the connection between the L and the ship so it would rotate freely.

Ah, I was thinking they would do the same thing to the elbow piece that fits into the back of the B-Wing, putting a flat spot on the pin for proper alignment of the stem for the base. If it's a round peg then I see no problem with magnetising the B-Wing to have it rotate.

I'm honestly not sure what the connection from the L to the back of the ship is. It rotates a bit, so definitely not keyed, but I also haven't tried pulling it off yet. The ship comes with the L attached and it feels somewhat permanent, even though it isn't actually glued in place. I haven't been brave enough to try and pull it off yet.

Edit: See later posts from rowdyoctopus on the wisdom of this. Looking more closely, he is certain correct that I was twisting the mount. As long as you don't overdo it, it seems to work - mine seems solid. But do so at your own risk!

Edited by Buhallin

To get really into it, cut off the cockpit and put in a pin so the canopy can rotate as well. Then you can keep the canopy vertical regardless of the orientation of the rest of the ship.

The B-wing will rotate on the L-peg on the back. It doesn't seem to be glued in, or at least if it is it's not glued very well. I wouldn't try to rotate it frequently, but a quick turn to put it at an angle works just fine. I expect that a modeler who wanted to could easily pull the peg, sand it to loosen it, add magnets, and be set.

I don't know if that will work because the peg on other miniatures for the socket piece is not round. It has a flat spot so the socket will align correctly for the pegs that attach to the base.

Didn't mean the standard peg - meant the part of the L which plugs into the back of the ship. There doesn't seem to be any keying where the L connects - I was able to rotate mine around it. It was tight, but there was no sound of breaking (and hence no crying). If you pulled the L piece from the back of the ship, you could magnetize the connection between the L and the ship so it would rotate freely.

Ah, I was thinking they would do the same thing to the elbow piece that fits into the back of the B-Wing, putting a flat spot on the pin for proper alignment of the stem for the base. If it's a round peg then I see no problem with magnetising the B-Wing to have it rotate.

I'm honestly not sure what the connection from the L to the back of the ship is. It rotates a bit, so definitely not keyed, but I also haven't tried pulling it off yet. The ship comes with the L attached and it feels somewhat permanent, even though it isn't actually glued in place. I haven't been brave enough to try and pull it off yet.

Give me one.. I'll rip it appart, I'm not afraid of breaking things :)... It's not like I can't make it bigger, faster, stronger (with a healthy green glow, hmm warpstone). I've already painted over the paint scheme of a Firespray-31 and started modding a Interceptor with plastic card today...

To get really into it, cut off the cockpit and put in a pin so the canopy can rotate as well. Then you can keep the canopy vertical regardless of the orientation of the rest of the ship.

So with you there.

Edited by Rodent Mastermind

OK. Because I don't have a problem gluing minis (I also play Heroclix which have like a 10% chance of coming broken in the booster), I fiddled with my only B-Wing I got from GenCon.

DO NOT TWIST THE B-WING ON ITS L-PEG. All you are doing is twisting and weakening the connection. Like plastic board game pieces that you twist out of a frame. The peg turns square when it reaches the actual model. "Turning" it is just twisting the plastic where the round part meets the square part. I'll try and get pictures up. I now have to glue mine back on as it snapped off completely. I don't mind. I'm considering gluing it at an angle.

OK. Because I don't have a problem gluing minis (I also play Heroclix which have like a 10% chance of coming broken in the booster), I fiddled with my only B-Wing I got from GenCon.

DO NOT TWIST THE B-WING ON ITS L-PEG. All you are doing is twisting and weakening the connection. Like plastic board game pieces that you twist out of a frame. The peg turns square when it reaches the actual model. "Turning" it is just twisting the plastic where the round part meets the square part. I'll try and get pictures up. I now have to glue mine back on as it snapped off completely. I don't mind. I'm considering gluing it at an angle.

Now it's off anyway, have you considered drilling in and putting a proper magnet coupling?

OK. Because I don't have a problem gluing minis (I also play Heroclix which have like a 10% chance of coming broken in the booster), I fiddled with my only B-Wing I got from GenCon.

DO NOT TWIST THE B-WING ON ITS L-PEG. All you are doing is twisting and weakening the connection. Like plastic board game pieces that you twist out of a frame. The peg turns square when it reaches the actual model. "Turning" it is just twisting the plastic where the round part meets the square part. I'll try and get pictures up. I now have to glue mine back on as it snapped off completely. I don't mind. I'm considering gluing it at an angle.

Now it's off anyway, have you considered drilling in and putting a proper magnet coupling?

If I had magnets small enough and owned a dremel with the proper bits, I might consider it. I don't however. I'll be challenged enough gluing this without leaving globs of glue on the beautiful mini. :D

http://imgur.com/LnOX58b.jpeg

http://i.imgur.com/yhg55IJ.jpg

There are a couple pictures. You can see the square shape of the peg in the back of the B-Wing. "Turning" it just twists the square part off of the rest of the peg.

Edited by rowdyoctopus

That's pretty funny that they're still selling out of interceptors even ahead of the new ships! With the video I guess I was just hoping that they weren't showing doubles in that shuttle video, just trying to display what's on the card not the quantities.

ive only been playing for about a month, i have 1 interceptor and it gets taosted quick, falcon ruins my day, are they that good and im using them wrong?

i have ordered 3 more just cause they are the coolest looking tie, so any tips?

well yes if you run the interceptors roll your dice better than I did at nationals at gencon. LMAO! I ran four to five interceptors and lost every battle though two were actuall modified wins for my opponents. still they were not very strong even against normal ties. I loved playing but lost all but one round and that was cause I had the bye...

OK I will have to experiment...I have plenty of magnets from plane gaming.

The ships having to remain on their stands in tourneys is a bit of an odd ruling, especially given the range of ship shapes colliding. It sure is amusing to picture using 4-6 pegs to get a falcon up and above the wings of a Tie fighter! What if you don't have that many spare large ship pegs with you? You're in big trouble then

What it really boils down to, I'm sure, is that the marketing guys at FFG want people playing a tournament to be generating attention and interest from passers-by. Their worst nightmare is for everybody to play ship-less bases due to the convenience of having no collisions. That doesn't do a good job of promoting the game (especially from across the room) at all! Thus, they rule that you have to have the ships on their stands at all times because it's an enforceable bright line that serves their ulterior motive.

As far as the Falcon goes, I always find it easier to just leave the Falcon on a single peg and most ships already fly above it. Adding a third peg to a TIE Fighter or two is far easier for most people than digging up a third peg for a large ship.

At the GenCon tournament FFG had some awesome huge banners that were gorgeous. I told one of the guys that they should sell them, because I'd gladly pay $100 to have one to put up at local cons and demos.

His response was basically a standard bureaucratic nightmare story. So I'd be very surprised to find out that FFG marketing was influencing rule decisions because they wanted to make sure the game would still look pretty from across the room for those few minutes the ship was off.

I expect it has far more to do with confusion arising from missing ships in both who's who and facing, and possibly a stronger enforcement of the "must have all components" element. I don't like the marketing guys either, but this really doesn't seem like their influence.

Its very simple.

If you are not required to have the ships, you can simply take the base from another expansion and run 2 because of the multiples of all the other components.

Its very simple.

If you are not required to have the ships, you can simply take the base from another expansion and run 2 because of the multiples of all the other components.

I don't think anyone said don't use the ships... What is the issue is not being able to remove the Falcon, and put it next to it's base when it can't be placed due to another model being in the way. I don't know many tournament systems that don't allow this kind of thing.