Velhart said:

In the last game I had lots of gold with Leprechaun and had more than a chance to spend. Village, Pedlar, Graveyard and any possible type of Healing were more than necessary to survive.

The Elf because is sooo boring.

The Priest is sooo weak but it's still more interesting. Personally I also think that the Knight, despite his power, it's another boing character: in some games you can't beat anone, and you have not a single special ability to break the circle. You roll, you move, roll, beat, roll, move. Sometimes you prey.

I'm the oddball. I like all the characters except one. He's the easy reject at start of game, and if I draw him as a restart (and I have) I find the fastest way to kill him and get a new restart.

The Merchant.

I have been able to find great ways to use everyones abilities except this useless dreg.

Blah.

-Salute

The_Warlock said:

The game we just played over the weekend was one for the record books. Not only did the basalisk take our 3 of 4 visiting characters on doubles roles but the first appearance of the Leprechaun was amazing. Not only was he carrying all the spare gold but he beat a buffed up Ogre Chieftain - TWICE and then went on to take out a very buffed up Monk - TWICE. Everytime it was these two bullies landing on the leprecahun only to have their arses handed back to them by an irrate Leprechaun (the empty bottle of Jameson might have had something to do with it.) Spending fate failed everyone that night.

Leprechaun is ok in my book, Priest and Minstrels blow!!!

Noone has yet to mention the Sprite/Pixie/Fairy, whatever the hell that little thing with wings is called.

Worst character ever.

The ability to have two spells all the time is generally no more powerful than the many other characters ability to have 1 spell all the time, and less powerful than warlocks ability to have full complement all the time. I would even put it as less powerful than druids ability to gain full complement on woods.

The ability to evade in woods/forest is pretty much useless and highly situational.

The starting with str 1 is crippling. Absolutely nothing in the ways of skills or other stats makes up for this starting handicap.

The fairy has to get extra lucky to pull off anywhere's near a decent strength just to not die, and can't even make up for it by attacking other char's in psychic combat.

Overall, the only two characters I can think of that have never pulled off a win in our games are the Sprite and Necromancer, and I don't think that's the necromancer's fault, he's just unlucky.

There's no fixing the sprite, if you draw her, cry, and then attempt the fastest way to kill yourself and redraw.

Balderdash!

I have won with the Sprite on many, many occasions. We played with the Sprite during the playtest phase and during 2nd ed days. She has always done very well.

If you are an expert at using Spells and when to cast them, you will be surprised at how good she is!!!

Ell.

ilike the priest. he has won his fair share around here. gotta pray pray pray. turn evil and gain fate, pray some more. it doesnt take long to get free str/crf tokens by praying and then you can venture out and mingle with other characters and other regions

elf is my least favorite. very boring

The Minstrel and the Elf are both a pile of mince. Pure garbage.

We start a game by dealing to character cards face down to each player and and you can pick between them, The only players who groan are the ones with the elf and minstrel.

Statistically in our games the monk has won the most times.

striker442 said:

Are you playing him as written (can only add +3 in battle regardless of Craft)? Not saying Monk sucks or that you've misplayed his Craft-ability, just curious.

Least Favourite has to be The Thief. Most of his powers come from PvP which I hate, abhor, despise, (insert worse words here). Many other characters have powers against characters only, but nothing is so evident to me as the Thief. Most of his power comes from PvP. So, if you don't steal with the Thief (which I won't, cuz, well, I hate PvP, so I practise what I preach and I avoid characters like the plague, even when I have the upper hand, well, except for the one CoC rusher PLAYER, not character, in our group, but we all descend on her like barracudas, long story), you're left with getting the odd item off the Village, and that cuts his power by 2/3. The less the power of the character has to do with PvP, the more I like it.

(Sidebar = This thread is about LEAST but Elf is definitely Top-3 that I like the most, likely for the same reason people hate him. I go on a Woods and we're done. You can't attack me, steal from me, mesmerise my followers, etc... or do 85% of the PvP stuff against me. You can only do spells. I get the Amulet, and I'm finally at ease. I can do my thing. You do yours. I don't bother you. You don't bother me. And there's nothing you can do about it. You'll still win the game cuz I rarely if ever do the CoC thing, I just like the gameplay. But I don't go for the "You're big. I'm small. I get beat on for your entertainment." kind of play. Did I mention I hate PvP? Heh)

Tons-Home-rules said:

I'd hope to be the Amazon and choose 1s as my movement. Reaper can still get your pointy-ear .

Tons-Home-rules said:

You better not play against me then!

Player v Player is always on my agenda (I may as well be an evil character all the time).

My gf keeps telling me off for turning her into a Toad, because I only do it to her and not any other players. She deserves all she gets. Talisman is the only place where I can be nasty to her!!!

Ell.

Dam said:

I'd hope to be the Amazon and choose 1s as my movement. Reaper can still get your pointy-ear .

It does indeed. In all fairness, I'm glad there's no "ironclad combo" in Talisman. It would suck for PvPers if the Elf + Woods = Untouchable. Otherwise, if I hit the woods with the Elf, that'd be it for people that DO like PvP. Sort of a "Might as well go home and rent something. He's in the woods... AGAIN." For any character, there's often a "worst case scenario card" out there, just waiting to hit you.

It's more fun to play with like minded people though. Dam and Talismanamsilat sound like they game similarly and would have great fun together. For us, we've been playing on-off since the Second Edition (I don't actually count anymore the 1st Edition one-offs we've played since that was only a month, then a big gap of time until second edition). Almost all of us... actually don't like to end the game, or PvP very much at all. Yet, there's always one. It's never the same person, since, the group fluctuated over the years. Really odd actually, since the group has changed considerably over the years, as small as 3 people at its smallest, 8 at the biggest, but there was always one (but never two+) that "rushed to the CoC" (at least by our standards) and that same person loved PvP, which, in all fairness, is the Standard and Expected way to play Talisman.

So, to extend the game, soon as the "rusher", who, as I said, over the years, was always someone different, but there was always one, got a little bit of power and sniffs at the Middle Region (let alone the Inner Region), the rest of the table pounces on him/her like irritated piranhas. It's a testament to the "rusher's" players' skill that they usually won the game. And, the "rusher" took it good naturedly and, often, admitted that "beating the table" was quite an achievement when s/he recounted his/her victories to other groups.

In all fairness, a repeat comment has been, over the years, by many different people, "Of COURSE I rush to the CoC. If I wait for you guys, we'll be on the same game for MONTHS". After the first month of playing Talisman, the original "rusher" begged for a house rule that if anyone was 18 in ST (or 18/18 ST/CR in later Editions), they HAD to make a run for the CoC. That "rule" is still in place today. Sad but true, heh.

Elf still has to come out eventually, I mean, only the Battle Royale ending allows him a shot at winning while still in Woods (assuming he got a Talisman) and at the CoC, all bets are off. And said pansy-in-woods-hiding Elf probably hasn't made too many friends, so at least here, people would tag-team him out ASAP, then get about the business of seeing who wins (not quite so doable with the BR ending if there are multiple chars at CoC, since you can't attack the same char twice IIRC).

The Elf is so, so good. His wood-hoppinig/evasion lets him control his movement. And if he's lucky enough to draw a pool on a woods, he'll reap most of the tokens.

With my experience it would be either the Gladiator or the Magus. Hear me out on this one:

Records:

Gladiator: Played in 8 games, first to die in every game.

Magus: Played in 4 games, first to die in every game where the Gladiator was not present

Both characters have never made it to the end-game

Basically what I'm saying is, in our games, we just have TERRIBLE luck with these two characters. Otherwise I see no problem with them.

If you want to go off of preference of abilities rather than record of play, it would be the Ghoul, just because he's useless. Priest has the spirit ability which allows him to avoid some tough encounters at the beginning, so that parts fine.

personally my least favorite is the assasin but not having played everyone and not having the frost march or the highland makes this not helpful but so far he is my least favorite

If you want to go off of preference of abilities rather than record of play, it would be the Ghoul, just because he's useless. Priest has the spirit ability which allows him to avoid some tough encounters at the beginning, so that parts fine.

I´ll rather play the ghoul anytime. I think he is way better than the priest. I really like his abilities. Being able to raise enemies and regain life if defeating another character in psychic combat, combined with 4 fate makes him a solid character. At least thats how i see it.

Regards

we only played the ghoul twice and i agree he is a solid character coming in a 1-1 but he takes a little skill and patience to use personally i perfer a faster strenght based character anyday like the dreadknight or the knight but thats just a personal opinion.

loken14 said:

I agree with you on that one, and he sure takes a little skill to use, but if you manage to boost his strenght by just a few points, he can become really mean when able to raise some stronger enemies to use in battle. I think he is fun to play, because he offers a little more strategy for you to handle.

Regards

The Wizard said:

That would explain why I believe he is useless xD. The few times the ghoul has been played, he has never been able to bring his strength up quickly enough to do anything. I'll try him out sometime with that in mind.

he really easy to use if u get a few lucky magic object draws

I can't stand the Assassin. I hate him since the days of 2:ed, when my friend always played as him and killed my characters all the time.

Nowadays I try to kill him of before he can do to much damage. Usually the other non-assassin players follows my example, thus making the assassin a hunted man in the talisman-land

If I draw him myself I rarely play him, as I think his power are to OP and boring...