Trust Me + Tarkin

By Caal-FR, in Star Wars: The Card Game - Rules Questions

Hi everyone,

My friends and I are having an argument over the impact of Tarkin on Trust Me.

Tarkin's text :

Enemy objectives require 1 fewer damage to destroy.

Trust Me's text :

Interrupt: When an event card is played, deal 2 damage to this objective to cancel that event card´s effect.

Nate French comment on Trust Me's ability cost

"You can attempt to deal 2 damage to the objective, but as per the rule on page 21 (under damage), damage in excess of a card's damage capacity is ignored. Because of this, the (full) cost of the cancel effect is not successfully paid, and the effect does not occur."

Our questions :

Does Tarkin ability affect Damage Capacity?

If not, isn't Nate statement partialy correct, and not taking into account modifiers to how much damage an unit/objective can take, regardless of damage capacity?

he certainly affects damage capacity. if tarkin is on the table, trust me is effectively a 4 damage capacity objective. If you use trust me a second time, it will be destroyed immediately. if there is 3 damage on it(and tarkin is deployed), you cannot use trust me's interrupt as you can only do a single damage to the objective and trust me's "cost" requires 2 damage.

anything over 4 damage to trust me while tarkin is on the table is ignored as it is in excess of the objectives current damage capacity.

Edited by bobafett012

Obviously Tarkin affects damage capacity so he would affect using Trust Me. I'm not sure if there's something else I'm not seeing in your question.

And Nate is only commenting, probably responding to someone's question and can't write up a fool proof thesis everytime. There will always be questions and clarifications needed, and I think he gets back to everyone pretty quickly.

Nate would have said the card's "printed damage capacity" if he didn't want modifiers to be taken into account (in the same way that "printed cost" is used).

I don't see where Tarkin affect damage capacity of the opponent objectif ...

For me Tarkin can be reed as : (For a 5HP objective) If an opponent objective has 4 or 5 damage on it, it'll be destroy.

Edited by Nours

Because any damage in excess of the 4th damage is superfluous and by definition is therefore ignored, its directly equivalent to saying the damage capacity has been lowered to 4. Its the same thing.

I read on the rules that any damage higher than the damage capacité are ignores not the superfluous one.

I feel like I'm getting sucked into a rules lawyer troll event, but ... if Tarkin says all objectives require one less damage to destroy, then the 4th damage destroys it. Anything else is excess and is ignored because the objective is eliminated immediately when the 4th damage goes on. That is functionally identical to saying the objective has 4 damage capacity.

I'm ont OK. Because there is many possibilities toi make 2 damage at the same time and when we do it, we don't put one token then an other, we put two tokens on it silmutanously.

If we don't do like that boba fett capture any unit with more than one health because when we put a token on the unit we can make the reaction of boba.

Yes its correct that damage is applied simultaneously. When an objective requires 5 damage to kill, because it has 5 capacity, and you apply 20 damage, then the excess 15 is ignored. When an objective requires 4 damage to kill, because of Tarkin, and you apply 20 damage, then the excess 16 is ignored. It's functionally equivalent.

This is also fundamentally the same as another discussion where the situation was Chewbacca with Old Ben's Spirit attached was at full health or had 1 or 2 damage already on him, and was dealt 4 damage.

When it is dealt, he would only be able to deal 6, 4, or 2 damage, respectively, because all the excess damage is ignored, even though all of it was dealt and caused OBS to be discarded, you don't discard OBS and apply the excess damage after the fact.

Also, in this example, Boba Fett with 1 or 2 blaster pistols could, indeed capture the wookie.

Edited by stormwolf27

Thanks for your answers.

I agree with most of you.

The discution wouldn't occur if Tarkin's wording was "Enemy's objectives have 1 less damage capacity".

I'm sure Nate will soon clear this point.

Re the wording, remember that the card came out in the core set when the effects template was still a work in progress. If it came out now, I'm sure it'd be edited to something along those lines.