Darkness Blade's Enhance says to "commit the highest difficulty card in your opponent's staging area." Should that be played as written, so that it just commits your opponent's Character, Giradot's Leadership, and Kid Sister only? Or does it have the imaginary word "ready" inbetween difficulty and card?
Darkness Blade
Glad to hear it had such an effeect =]
These will help:
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=30&efcid=5&efidt=75993
http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=30&efcid=5&efidt=44156
Short version - can't commit something that's already committed.
Stamp for MegaGeese. You can't commit a card that's already committed, so it can't re-select the same card.
MegaGeese said:
Glad to hear it had such an effeect =]
Yeah, I was trying so hard to think of a way to incorporate getting past that stupidly powerful ability. Would The Red Lotus of the Sun work if it responded when the enhance was played? I didn't ask during the game, since I think that I had committed it for a stun ability or something else dumb like that.
Yeah, because Darkness Blade is an ability that can commit stuff in your staging area.
And that's exactly why I used that Owlface prior to playing Darkness Blade - you'd either negate it with Red Lotus, opening you up for DBlade, or not negate it and lose Red Lotus. Simple =]
Always ask if you're not sure. Even if the answer is not in my favor, I certainly won't lie to you on a ruling or interaction.
Here's a question i have pertaining to DB and it's interaction with Red Lotus of the Sun. My apologies if this question has already been answered...
Specifically, when my opponent plays DB and calls it's E, may i R with RLotS to completely negate its effect? Or, do i have to wait until he calls other Es and negate them individually?
Heh, that's actually what my second question was. Sorry if it wasn't phrased to understandably. But the answer that I recieved was yes, you respond with RLotS immediately after the enhance on DB is played (because it is the enhance that has an effect to possibly commit your staging area), and if you miss that chance, you can't negate other enhances, but they will commit your staging area.
Even though it doesn't commit anything directly, it will eventually. That's also how you can use RLotS to negate Amy's Assistance even if they are wanting to use it for the damage reduction (and you don't even have an asset out).
Which actually leads me to another question. If my opponent enhances with DB, I pass, then they enhance with anything else (let's say Wind Dance for example), if I negate the enhance (with Chester's Backing or Seal of Cessation for example), do they still get to commit one of the cards in my staging area?
Steel said:
Even though it doesn't commit anything directly, it will eventually. That's also how you can use RLotS to negate Amy's Assistance even if they are wanting to use it for the damage reduction (and you don't even have an asset out).
Lemme explain this a half-step further - at the point where you respond with Red Lotus, you shouldn't know that they want to use it for damage reduction. You don't make decisions like that until the ability is already resolving, and Red Lotus responds when the ability is played, not when it resolves (and, incidentally, prevents said resolution). That's WHY it works that way - because Amy's CAN foreseeably result in committing stuff (yes, even without you having an asset out...).
Steel said:
Which actually leads me to another question. If my opponent enhances with DB, I pass, then they enhance with anything else (let's say Wind Dance for example), if I negate the enhance (with Chester's Backing or Seal of Cessation for example), do they still get to commit one of the cards in my staging area?
Darkness Blade's enhance will trigger upon the PLAY of any further enhances, which means it happens before said enhances resolve, AND before any abilities may respond to the play of the enhance. If the enhance is negated, it was still played, so it still triggers darkness blade.
Okay, cool! That helps clarify a lot. Whew! Played against my friend's ridonkulous Chaos/Death Victor that Reanimates itself upon playing DB to commit your entire field. Pretty scary and nasty to say the least. Nice to know there exists some form of defense other than trying to blow up Reanimated, or packing No Mems.
Thanks for that, gang!
Tagrineth said:
Steel said:
Even though it doesn't commit anything directly, it will eventually. That's also how you can use RLotS to negate Amy's Assistance even if they are wanting to use it for the damage reduction (and you don't even have an asset out).
Lemme explain this a half-step further - at the point where you respond with Red Lotus, you shouldn't know that they want to use it for damage reduction. You don't make decisions like that until the ability is already resolving, and Red Lotus responds when the ability is played, not when it resolves (and, incidentally, prevents said resolution). That's WHY it works that way - because Amy's CAN foreseeably result in committing stuff (yes, even without you having an asset out...).
Steel said:
Which actually leads me to another question. If my opponent enhances with DB, I pass, then they enhance with anything else (let's say Wind Dance for example), if I negate the enhance (with Chester's Backing or Seal of Cessation for example), do they still get to commit one of the cards in my staging area?
Darkness Blade's enhance will trigger upon the PLAY of any further enhances, which means it happens before said enhances resolve, AND before any abilities may respond to the play of the enhance. If the enhance is negated, it was still played, so it still triggers darkness blade.
A quick question about the order of resolution, say DB is active, and you play an enhance and you want to commit their Chesters but they want to use Chesters to negate that enhance. Would they have time to respond before DB brings the chesters down?
I think floating effects resolve before you can respond with reacts.
Smazzurco said:
Floating effects resolve before responses with the same trigger.
^Fixed for *STAMP*
GouHadou said:
Smazzurco said:
Floating effects resolve before responses with the same trigger.
^Fixed for *STAMP*
^This is what i meant, even if it is not what i said
Fen - no.
See links from my first post.