Threat from the east Question

By Tagek, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hey,

I was reading up on the plot card ''Threat from the east'' (The errata changed the text)

(link: http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/GoTCards.html/_/queen-of-dragons/threat-from-the-east-qod?st=25#commentsStart )

And I was wondering a few things:

1. If I played Threat from the east, and I chose the second option against an opponent who only has 2 cards left in his hand, would he have to discard whatever is left in his hand, even though he doesn't have 3 to discard?

Followup on 1:

And if he does have to discard whatever is left in his hand, does that mean he is not allowed to draw 3 new ones because he didn't actually discard 3?

2. If I picked the first option, do those 3 cards you draw count toward the draw cap?

3. If I picked the first option, is it somehow possible that a player is not able to draw 3 cards? (I ask because afaik there is no hand limit)

Followup on 3:

And like with question 1, if he is somehow only able to draw 1 or 2 cards, does that mean he doesn't have to discard 3 cards since he didn't actually draw 3?

EDIT:

4. When it says ''discards 3 random cards from hand'' does it mean that player has to blindly discard 3 cards from his hand without knowing which ones they are or, does the player get to pick which cards he wants to discard?

Any help would be appreciated. :)

Edited by Tagek

  1. Each payer must fulfill as much of the effect as possible. If a player only has two cards, then both cards are discarded, but since they didn't discard 3, they cannot draw.

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Thanks for the answers! Very helpful. :)

I realised I have 1 more question if you wouldn't mind.

4. When it says ''discards 3 random cards from hand'' does it mean that player has to blindly discard 3 cards from his hand without knowing which ones they are, or does the player get to pick which cards he wants to discard?

Edited by Tagek

The player has to choose randomly. In standard practice, this is done by the opponent pulling cards, but any mutually acceptable method of random pull would work. Some have even used dice to decide.

The player has to choose randomly. In standard practice, this is done by the opponent pulling cards, but any mutually acceptable method of random pull would work. Some have even used dice to decide.

Alright, thanks for the clear explanation(s).

This will change my friend's opinion of this card a lot. ^^ (He was the one using it)

Glad to help. The card used to be OP due to the weird way it was worded and the way it interacted with the rules. Now it's more specific and clear and much harder to abuse. Plus, as it's restricted in Joust... it isn't played nearly as often as it used to be. (Though it is still played in certain builds.)