UFS Tier List

By Viewtiful_Joe, in UFS General Discussion

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sir_shajir said:

To the people that said that 8 Handsize Gill sucks because he is a blank 8 Handsize character:
Go learn how to read, he actually has a relevant ability in that he can gain 3 life for the cost of 1 handsize. Hmm, what does that mean? well when you burn through your deck really quickly, you might want to lower your handsize so you don't mill through your deck so fast.

Although Gill is an 8/20, when you actually sit down and start playing him, he feels more like an 8/26-8/29 because his ability gives him that mobility to just gain back just enough life so that he doesn't die and he can let his foundations do the talking, i've played games where i was at 1 life, and me gaining 3 life made it impossible for my opponent to kill me anymore, next turn, me being at 7 life just sealed my opponent's hopes at a victory. To be honest, in Montreal I ended taking a total of 15 damage the whole tournament, never lost a single game (that's right game, not round) and finished every game with over 20 life. Oh and I 2-0 everyone (except kin who I drew with and then he gave me the victory in finals) with 15 minutes on the clock (which is key for a chain smoker...)

gill is very good. but shajir, sometimes he is a blank char. when order is working right, you don't need his ability.

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Archimedes said:

I'll trade Lord of the Makai out for Natural Leader any day.

It's a 3/5 foundation (in decks that typically want to run ChiBoxing/Chester's Backing and MAYBE Mentally unstable, then a whole lot of 2 and 1 diffs) that commits itself and trades a card from your hand.

2 momentum for a cost, as opposed to endless momentum for free.

Um...=/

My whole point is that, even if Makai goes, Natural Leader is next in line to serve Feline Spike.

Also, Hatman made a really good point (that is eclipsed by a quote box), in that, really, who runs Aquakinesis? That card is clearly garbage.

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Totally why I would never play 4 in an Order deck. I mean, c'mon. 1/5 with a high block that draws me a card? So useless.

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MarcoPulleaux said:

Archimedes said:

I'll trade Lord of the Makai out for Natural Leader any day.

It's a 3/5 foundation (in decks that typically want to run ChiBoxing/Chester's Backing and MAYBE Mentally unstable, then a whole lot of 2 and 1 diffs) that commits itself and trades a card from your hand.

2 momentum for a cost, as opposed to endless momentum for free.

Um...=/

My whole point is that, even if Makai goes, Natural Leader is next in line to serve Feline Spike.

Also, Hatman made a really good point (that is eclipsed by a quote box), in that, really, who runs Aquakinesis? That card is clearly garbage.

And it's MUCH easier to control/play around Natural Leader than it is Lord of the Makai, that was MY point.

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Aquakinisis is garbage? Wow... As an evil and earth player I would kill to have that card.

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bloodocean said:

Aquakinisis is garbage? Wow... As an evil and earth player I would kill to have that card.

I was being facetious. If I call a card garbage, it generally means one of two things :

1) I'm sarcastic
2) I will be playing the card like hell for the next two weeks provided it actually has an effect.

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Bloodocean-We were definitely kidding. Aquakinesis is one of the best foundations to hit the block. Great block, great stats, Great effect that has a cost and can't be 'abused' (in the sense that it is only useable when your combat phase begins, so no readying shenanigans to abuse it)

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HolyDragonCloud said:

Bloodocean-We were definitely kidding. Aquakinesis is one of the best foundations to hit the block. Great block, great stats, Great effect that has a cost and can't be 'abused' (in the sense that it is only useable when your combat phase begins, so no readying shenanigans to abuse it)

unlike Soire''s shizzle with familial loyalty :D

Speaking of whom where does the ol' breakdancer place on the tier list?

I think he's tier 3 but with LOTM he's a beasty on steroids.

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HolyDragonCloud said:

Bloodocean-We were definitely kidding. Aquakinesis is one of the best foundations to hit the block. Great block, great stats, Great effect that has a cost and can't be 'abused' (in the sense that it is only useable when your combat phase begins, so no readying shenanigans to abuse it)

Plus it goes through Tough Outer Shell, so you can R while your opponent weeps.

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Soiree made the winning team for GCC Teams 2009, if that means anything =/

I miss him...I really ought to put him back together. Four iSpins in one turn was a lot of fun =(

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That's fine, but seriously I would kill to have that card in evil and earth...make it happen please.

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Bloodrunstrue said:

HolyDragonCloud said:

Bloodocean-We were definitely kidding. Aquakinesis is one of the best foundations to hit the block. Great block, great stats, Great effect that has a cost and can't be 'abused' (in the sense that it is only useable when your combat phase begins, so no readying shenanigans to abuse it)

unlike Soire''s shizzle with familial loyalty :D

Speaking of whom where does the ol' breakdancer place on the tier list?

I think he's tier 3 but with LOTM he's a beasty on steroids.

good, but not good enough. i just think he isn't good enough to win a tournement. maybe he will top 8, but that would take skills.

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Bloodrunstrue said:

HolyDragonCloud said:

Bloodocean-We were definitely kidding. Aquakinesis is one of the best foundations to hit the block. Great block, great stats, Great effect that has a cost and can't be 'abused' (in the sense that it is only useable when your combat phase begins, so no readying shenanigans to abuse it)

unlike Soire''s shizzle with familial loyalty :D

Speaking of whom where does the ol' breakdancer place on the tier list?

I think he's tier 3 but with LOTM he's a beasty on steroids.

High Tier. Not exactly the "as soon as he hits the table he wins" character, but he's naturally got an awesome foundation-readying ability that sails him at least to High Tier. It only helps matters when you realize the guy can ready Chester's and Chinese off two symbols =D.

Oh yeah, he also makes monkey love to Battle Prowess <3

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He's the single best character to front a Chun-Li deck if you want to slide through diversity.

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The funny thing is, somehow, someway, Tournament character cards NEVER become super-popular, and yet most of them are (or were) downright great. Matt Kohls's first incarnation was probably the only exception, yet I can't remember hearing about diversity issues with him. Of course, the pool is fairly limited to look at (James, Andrew, Wess, Jacky, Matt, Scott as far as I know). Jacky and Wess's character cards aren't anything to write home about (sorry guys!). On the other hand, 1st Form Matt, James, Andrew, and recently Scott are all pretty darn useful.

So your point on using Olexa to get by diversity stands. Unless, of course, Olexa is at said tournament. Then find someone else to use to sneak diversity =p.

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quarzark said:

He's the single best character to front a Chun-Li deck if you want to slide through diversity.

Wild Wolf Terry would like a word with you.

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bloodocean said:

That's fine, but seriously I would kill to have that card in evil and earth...make it happen please.

id rather have visions of destiny

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Olexa is not a good character to slide into diversity with, i've been to two regioals so far and seen at least 1-2 olexas in each one.

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quarzark said:

He's the single best character to front a Chun-Li deck if you want to slide through diversity.

:D
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Archimedes said:

quarzark said:

He's the single best character to front a Chun-Li deck if you want to slide through diversity.

Wild Wolf Terry would like a word with you.

I think he was alluding to Soiree's symbols...

Although I think Soiree is better than Wild Wolf Terry. Terry seems overrated.

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MarcoPulleaux said:

Archimedes said:

quarzark said:

He's the single best character to front a Chun-Li deck if you want to slide through diversity.

Wild Wolf Terry would like a word with you.

I think he was alluding to Soiree's symbols...

Although I think Soiree is better than Wild Wolf Terry. Terry seems overrated.

No he isn't, really.

Wild wolf lays claim to fantastic stats. He also promotes attacking with 3 very on par symbols.

His draw 2 cards ability that cannot be negated can make him safe in most circumstances while being an auto-panic button that you can rely on when you overextend. ( Which is common in 6HS'ers case.)

Trust me

There's a reason wild wolf lays claim to being the best terry around.

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Wild Wolf Terry is amazing. It's just no one is really using him. Couldn't tell you why, really.

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Oh I don't know YOU DECK OUT FAST MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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deathcritis1 said:

Oh I don't know YOU DECK OUT FAST MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Because peeps who only run 60 cards are noobs.

:)

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You don't deck out fast with Wild Wolf Terry. A-there's certainly no reason to run only 60 cards with him. 66-68 would do fine. B-This is UFS. There's cycling.