Did I miss the memo? I thought that it was 1 box had enough for a full playset. I only preordered one copy because of this. Was I misinformed? Was this answered anywhere or stated?
Very disappointed to say the least. I would have pre-ordered two copies.
Did I miss the memo? I thought that it was 1 box had enough for a full playset. I only preordered one copy because of this. Was I misinformed? Was this answered anywhere or stated?
Very disappointed to say the least. I would have pre-ordered two copies.
It was very blatantly stated on the products page since February 11th.
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_npm_sec.asp?eidm=184&esem=1&epmi=s
Star Wars
How are people missing this? I do not mean to be rude, but this has been talked about ad nauseum on the forums and it says it on the product page.
It's easy to miss when FFG keeps changing their distribution method. Other boxed expansions for other LCGs have been enough for max copies. They keep flip flopping.
It's not really a question of "playability"; it's a question of "competitive playability". Yes, you can play it just fine with only 1 copy of EoD, but to be able to build an efficient, winning deck you would need to have 2 copies of some of your objective sets. For that, you would need 2 copies of EoD.
What separates Star Wars from other LCG's is the idea of the objective sets. If this element had not been used, I'm sure the distribution method would have been greatly affected.
I, personally, am happy with FFG's decision regarding the deluxe expansions. It allows the casual gamers to create more diverse decks and allows avid players the option of buying additional copies to create their ideal, winning decks. Everybody wins.
Think of it this way: if 2 copies of each objective set had been included in the deluxe expansions (let's assume half the number of different objective sets available vs. costing twice as much), then casual gamers may have felt cheated out of half of their money and avid players would have had fewer objective sets to choose from. Plus, in that case, twice as many deluxe expansions would have been released throughout the future by FFG anyway. So in the end--no matter how you slice it--the avid, competitive players pay the same amount as they do now.
I understand the WHY. It's been hashed out enough times. My annoyance is the fact that they keep flip flopping. AGoT, Invasion, and LotR both had deluxe sets with max competitive copies.
Just really annoying to have to keep track. Wish they'd stay one way or another. I believe I preordered EoD when it was first announced and everyone was saying one box was enough to get competitive. I buy my LCG stuff fire and forget. Pre-order what I need, then pick up months later. Meh. Just ranting at FFG's lame inconsistency and fail distribution (lately everything's been delayed).
It's not lame. This is the Scum and Smugglers core set. I am happy it is setup this way. We got 22 new objective sets! If it was done your way we would have gotten 11. That would be lame.
It's not lame. This is the Scum and Smugglers core set. I am happy it is setup this way. We got 22 new objective sets! If it was done your way we would have gotten 11. That would be lame.
My point exactly.
I agree it's better way to distribute to have more variety but the INCONSISTENCY with big box releases having all copies or not enough copies is AGGRAVATING.
I agree it's better way to distribute to have more variety but the INCONSISTENCY with big box releases having all copies or not enough copies is AGGRAVATING.
The reason they do it is to keep the price point consistent. They do a maximum of 180 individual cards so that they can charge less for the expansion.
Given that there are 3 "one per objective deck" ones, that would be a total of 41 objectives, if they included a play set, making it 246 individual cards, and, therefore, raising the price point. If they did that, then people would be complaining about the price inconsistency of deluxe expansions rather than playsets of cards.
I agree it's better way to distribute to have more variety but the INCONSISTENCY with big box releases having all copies or not enough copies is AGGRAVATING.
The reason they do it is to keep the price point consistent. They do a maximum of 180 individual cards so that they can charge less for the expansion.
Given that there are 3 "one per objective deck" ones, that would be a total of 41 objectives, if they included a play set, making it 246 individual cards, and, therefore, raising the price point. If they did that, then people would be complaining about the price inconsistency of deluxe expansions rather than playsets of cards.
Haters gonna hate.
I'm glad we are getting 22 singles instead of 11 doubles.
I agree it's better way to distribute to have more variety but the INCONSISTENCY with big box releases having all copies or not enough copies is AGGRAVATING.
The reason they do it is to keep the price point consistent. They do a maximum of 180 individual cards so that they can charge less for the expansion.
Given that there are 3 "one per objective deck" ones, that would be a total of 41 objectives, if they included a play set, making it 246 individual cards, and, therefore, raising the price point. If they did that, then people would be complaining about the price inconsistency of deluxe expansions rather than playsets of cards.
Haters gonna hate.
I'm glad we are getting 22 singles instead of 11 doubles.
Amen. I bought 2 for $50 and was completely satisfied.
I agree it's better way to distribute to have more variety but the INCONSISTENCY with big box releases having all copies or not enough copies is AGGRAVATING.
The reason they do it is to keep the price point consistent. They do a maximum of 180 individual cards so that they can charge less for the expansion.
Given that there are 3 "one per objective deck" ones, that would be a total of 41 objectives, if they included a play set, making it 246 individual cards, and, therefore, raising the price point. If they did that, then people would be complaining about the price inconsistency of deluxe expansions rather than playsets of cards.
To emphasize on this, 180 cards in a deluxe expansion (for every game except SW:TCG) is 3 copies each of 60 cards. which is easier to do when you can have one card that doesn't have to have its five friends follow along.
to do this with SW, and only have 180 cards, you would need to include 2 each of no more than 15 objectives... so 6 S&S, 6S&V, and 3 neutrals... or something along those lines.
Doesn't really pan out when you think about it... especially when you consider that at that point, you're just basically getting a force pack and a half.
Edited by stormwolf27"a force pack and a half"
Umm... 60 x 1.5 =/= 180.
You can't divide one in half and not the other and then compare them. If we assume that every objective set in a force pack is "two of", as you did for our hypothetical deluxe expansion, then a force pack comes with 5. A deluxe expansion comes with 15. That's still 3x as many cards.
"a force pack and a half"
Umm... 60 x 1.5 =/= 180.
You can't divide one in half and not the other and then compare them. If we assume that every objective set in a force pack is "two of", as you did for our hypothetical deluxe expansion, then a force pack comes with 5. A deluxe expansion comes with 15. That's still 3x as many cards.
you want this half of the hair? or you okay with yours over there?
You have completely missed the point of that, and decided to nitpick on my math? really? are you just looking for an argument, or do you actually think you're helping the situation?
Edited by stormwolf27
"a force pack and a half"
Umm... 60 x 1.5 =/= 180.
You can't divide one in half and not the other and then compare them. If we assume that every objective set in a force pack is "two of", as you did for our hypothetical deluxe expansion, then a force pack comes with 5. A deluxe expansion comes with 15. That's still 3x as many cards.
you want this half of the hair? or you okay with yours over there?
You have completely missed the point of that, and decided to nitpick on my math? really? are you just looking for an argument, or do you actually think you're helping the situation?
besides... would you really be satisfied with calling it a "deluxe expansion" with 7-8 objectives from each side, even if they were playsets?
Do you guys even understand my issue? I'm not hating - I like the variety.
I'm fine with paying for two box sets. I always buy enough to get max copies for competitive play.
I'm just severely annoyed at the different distribution methods spanning across different LCGs. I just wish they'd stay consistent.
It was especially annoying with Invasion/AGoT when they did 3 required purchases (for big box and early chapter packs) then switching over to 3 copies per pack/box.
Just...difficult to keep track of how many to buy each time. I would hate prebuying and then realizing I bought too many and having wasted purchase that could have gone to something else. Conversely, it's annoying when product arrives and you open it up to realize u need to go get another copy.
Star Wars by its very structure is completely different packaging wise than the other LCGs so it would be hard to make it consistent with the others. It's too different.
Could be worse, Netrunners core box gives you three copies of some cards, two copies of other cards and even one copy of others. Two boxes doesnt even give you a full play set of some cards and more than a playset of others.
Do you guys even understand my issue? I'm not hating - I like the variety.
I'm fine with paying for two box sets. I always buy enough to get max copies for competitive play.
I'm just severely annoyed at the different distribution methods spanning across different LCGs. I just wish they'd stay consistent.
It was especially annoying with Invasion/AGoT when they did 3 required purchases (for big box and early chapter packs) then switching over to 3 copies per pack/box.
Just...difficult to keep track of how many to buy each time. I would hate prebuying and then realizing I bought too many and having wasted purchase that could have gone to something else. Conversely, it's annoying when product arrives and you open it up to realize u need to go get another copy.
I am not trying to be rude, but you could always read the product page. It says it quite clearly on there.
Could be worse, Netrunners core box gives you three copies of some cards, two copies of other cards and even one copy of others. Two boxes doesnt even give you a full play set of some cards and more than a playset of others.
Yeah, AGoT was like that too.
Preordered before product page was updated. Fire and forget. In fact, for the core set, I had that preordered like a year+ given delay and product rehaul.
I think all the LCGs have odd distribution when first launched, then distribution evens out to full sets per box...at least that's what I've seen. Still annoying.
Well, given that the whole purpose of EoD is to bring the criminal factions into objective set parity with the military and force factions, it only makes sense that whatever it took to get a full playset of Core would apply again. Hopefully future deluxe expansions will follow the only-one-needed precedent of BotF. Personally, my only gripe is that any product we need to buy two of should contain exactly zero "limit one per deck" pods. I may not resent having to buy a second EoD, but that superfluous Bail Organa sure grinds my gears. (Not to mention the several limited pods that you end up with THREE spare copies of after your second core!)
Yes, I've noticed several times some Core objective sets that I have 3 or 4 copies of. LOL
Preordered before product page was updated. Fire and forget. In fact, for the core set, I had that preordered like a year+ given delay and product rehaul.
The product page had that on there the day of the product announcement within an hour of its initial posting.