Destiny Points: Why only four tokens and what to do about it.

By mrvander, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I've read a number of reviews about the game lamenting the fact that the dice pack only comes with four tokens to track Destiny Points and that no other product includes more. Sure, the game book provides alternate methods such as using any sort of token on the Group Sheet "circles" but people really like the idea of the flippable token.

The ones that do come in the dice pack are cardboard. Sturdy, but still paper, can wear down and are not spill-proof and as mentioned, there's only four in a pack. That's the maximum needed for a two-player game but what if you need more? What if you want them to last?

My suggestion is to get a cheap game of Othello. The tokens are a decent size, plastic, black on one side, white on the other. So for about $5 to $7 you have sixty-four nice, easily understandable, spill-proof destiny tokens!

Edited by mrvander

The beginner game offers double sided tokens as well.

Good suggestion.

Considering that you only get one challenge die per set, and you really need two or more, I suspect most people will be buying two sets of dice with a combined total of 8 tokens. That said, they aren't as durable as your idea.

I thought of that initially, but I couldn't find a set cheap enough. IOW, if you're going to spend the cash, you might as well just buy a second pack of dice and get 4 more tokens and have the extra dice. Having 2 sets is really nice, although the die roller app is much faster at the table and cheaper, marginally.

If you need more token, i suggest to use two other type of token and not neccessary EotE's token

Why in the world are people so hung up on using the "official" tokens to track destiny? Just grab a stack of poker chips. Light side tokens stay over by the players, and the GM keeps the Dark Side tokens next to his notes or the screen (keeping them visible). One side uses a destiny point, they just hand one to the other when it's done.

The custom dice are somewhat justifiable given the system, but there's no reason to guy extra packs of them just to get some "flippable" tokens. Come on, people, you're gamers. Show your creativity.

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Or just use normal coins...

Why in the world are people so hung up on using the "official" tokens to track destiny? Just grab a stack of poker chips. Light side tokens stay over by the players, and the GM keeps the Dark Side tokens next to his notes or the screen (keeping them visible). One side uses a destiny point, they just hand one to the other when it's done.

The custom dice are somewhat justifiable given the system, but there's no reason to guy extra packs of them just to get some "flippable" tokens. Come on, people, you're gamers. Show your creativity.

It is less buying packs of dice I don't need, more that I am already buying the dice to easily play the game. And two packs of dice have 8 tokens.

Four destiny tokens in the dice pack is plenty. Imagine that every player buys his own dice (RPG players are a superstitious lot, and sharing dice is tantamount to inviting a curse or even committing adultery). Then, each person has at least four tokens to contribute to the pool.

Even if you have a community set of dice (which we do now, unfortunately, as no one wants to blow $15 on dice for a game we'll play "every once in a while" for now, then you'd still want at least two sets of the dice, and that's eight tokens--plenty for four players, and very likely good for up to six.

Personally, I bought a new Star Wars-themed dice bag for my dice, and I keep the tokens in the zip-top bag, along with the tokens from the beginner game. Then, I put the bag in with the dice. Works well so far.

The Othello idea is great, though.

For just about $20, you can get the Beginner Game off of Amazon. That includes a full die set, eight more Destiny tokens, a bunch of other neat tokens, and several maps.

A pretty decent deal, if you ask me.

If you're using the group sheet from the core book (or the FFG website), you don't even need double-sided tokens. You can use coins or glass beads or what-have-you with the light side/dark side spaces on the sheet.

My suggestion is to get a cheap game of Othello. The tokens are a decent size, plastic, black on one side, white on the other. So for about $5 to $7 you have sixty-four nice, easily understandable, spill-proof destiny tokens!

Brilliant suggestion! I just found a guy on Ebay selling loose Othello tokens for basically 50-cents apiece (shipping included). Just ordered 20. That should more than hold my group over plenty.

If you're using the group sheet from the core book (or the FFG website), you don't even need double-sided tokens. You can use coins or glass beads or what-have-you with the light side/dark side spaces on the sheet.

I had actually forgotten about that on the group sheet. Plus you could also just use regular coins. Color one side black if you feel like it.

You can also use backgammon pieces or checkers.

I've been eyeing the old Othello sitting unused in the basement since I got the Beta book. :)

In our Saga game, we use poker chips to represent resources (White = Force Point, Blue = Destiny Point, Red = Dark Side Point) and it's always fun when they get used (or in the case of DSPs, earned) and fly across the table. I think the Othello pieces will carry similar weight -- although I also considered paining one side of a bunch of white poker chips, or gluing together red/blue pairs...

My suggestion is to get a cheap game of Othello. The tokens are a decent size, plastic, black on one side, white on the other. So for about $5 to $7 you have sixty-four nice, easily understandable, spill-proof destiny tokens!

This is what I use, even now when I have bought two dice sets and have enough for my group I still prefer to use the Othello counters as they are good and solid and long lasting. I find the tokens provided to be a little flimsy. The best way to get the counters in my opinion though is buy loose off of ebay. I got 15+ for quite a reasonable price.

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I just bought an Othello game at the local thrift store for $1.59 and it contains about 50 or 60 black/white chips. I am set for destiny points for a while.

I just bought an Othello game at the local thrift store for $1.59 and it contains about 50 or 60 black/white chips. I am set for destiny points for a while.

It should be either 64 or 68. (some runs came with 2 extra. Mine did.)

I just bought an Othello game at the local thrift store for $1.59 and it contains about 50 or 60 black/white chips. I am set for destiny points for a while.

It should be either 64 or 68. (some runs came with 2 extra. Mine did.)

I counted and there are 64.

My suggestion is to get a cheap game of Othello. The tokens are a decent size, plastic, black on one side, white on the other. So for about $5 to $7 you have sixty-four nice, easily understandable, spill-proof destiny tokens!

A while back I bought a bag of cheap Othello pieces. I think I have around 50. I can supply some EotE players who know where Tabletop Games in the Midwest is. :)

Glass beads in various colors are available at any craft or gaming store. I suggest red for dark side and light blue for light.

You can also track Destiny Points using Beads. There is a "Party" sheet printed in the back of the book that's used for tracking Obligation, but it also has light and dark side areas squares printed on the sheet for tracking the Destiny Pool.

Why in the world are people so hung up on using the "official" tokens to track destiny? Just grab a stack of poker chips. Light side tokens stay over by the players, and the GM keeps the Dark Side tokens next to his notes or the screen (keeping them visible). One side uses a destiny point, they just hand one to the other when it's done.

The custom dice are somewhat justifiable given the system, but there's no reason to guy extra packs of them just to get some "flippable" tokens. Come on, people, you're gamers. Show your creativity.

Because we are gamers and most of us are OCD and just fuming that we cant spend our money on more stuff.

If FFG doesn't beat them to it, there are plenty of companies that sell almost nothing but "specifically generic" templates and tokens for tabletop games and RPG's. There are already several shilling laser etched/cut stuff for X-Wing. I'm sure "Space Battle RPG- Power of the Source Tokens"-type nonsense will pop up in acrylic at some point. Hopefully FFG will offer something licensed that's a bit more flashy than cardboard.

There's plenty of proper die-cut legit FFG tokens in the Beginner Box. At around $20 online, it's a bargain for the dice and tokens alone. It's also one of the best ways to get new players into the game.

For xmas i was given a game called "Shut the Box." Two dice and a tray to roll them in, with 12 numbered flip-tabs attached to the box, so you know which numbers you've flipped. The game is stupid as hell. I was able to feign excitement about the game itself, but really I was thinking, "Well, now I have a dice-rolling tray. Way to blow thirty bucks on that, Person Who Isn't Me!" Shortly after, I learned about EotE, and whipped up some light/dark stickers for the flip-tabs. Now it has a specific purpose.

This game should start showing up in thrift shops, because it's going to be a waste of space for most people. Keep an eye out. It looks like this : http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/product/wooden-game-shut-the-box-57034.aspx?src=T13WFSHP2&gclid=CO38jZj_7LgCFbF_QgodvyAAfg