few questions

By futabaaoi, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

when exactly is the timing for the playing of double bluff? Does it still work if no defenders are present?

The Clansmen do not use their traits (deadly, etc.) right when particpating with Tyrion(LotR) in a challenge correct?

Wild Fire assualt versus can not be killed, what exactly happens when these two things collide?

1. Double Bluff is played after the framework for declaring defenders, whether they are declared or not.

2. The Clansmen are considered to be participating for any and all purposes (note that this is regardless of icons), this does in fact include keywords. Pretty nasty stuff, in my opinion.

3. With Wildfire Assault, you aren't choosing characters to be killed (something that precludes choosing a character who cannot be killed), you are choosing characters to live. What this means is that you can choose three other characters and simply let the "cannot be killed" character survive through his ability, netting you four surviving characters .

J_Roel said:

2. The Clansmen are considered to be participating for any and all purposes (note that this is regardless of icons), this does in fact include keywords. Pretty nasty stuff, in my opinion.

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So things like stealth, etc. would still work even though they already are knelt?

Also can you float influence like you can do mana in Magic?

1) Yes, keywords like Stealth still work if a character is kneeling (there's no requirement for the character to be standing - or they'd be fairly weak to start with!). As the rules for Deadly, Stealth and Renown only refer to participating characters, that's all you have to check for.

2) No, you cannot float influence - influence cannot be knelt except to pay a cost. You can only pay a cost at the time you play a card. Unlike magic, where kneeling a land gives you a mana (to use at a later time) - that's more like kneeling a reducer.

So if I am doing a challenge with Tyrion I attack with him and have two feuding clanswoman knelt, I get 3 stealth triggers?

futabaaoi said:

So if I am doing a challenge with Tyrion I attack with him and have two feuding clanswoman knelt, I get 3 stealth triggers?

Well, not separate triggers, but yes, you can stealth up to 3 characters