Anyone want to take a stab at what Enoulian weapon stats really are?

By hellebore2, in Dark Heresy

As the book gives 2 seperate sets of stats, one in the armoury list and one in the character entry:

Character entry

name class range RoF Dam Pen Clip Rld Special

pistol pistol 20m S/-/- 1D10+1 R 1 100 2Full Tearing

rifle basic 70m S/3/- 1D10+2 I 1 100 2Full Tearing

Armoury entry

name class range RoF Dam Pen Clip Rld Special

pistol pistol 20m S/-/- 1D10+1 R 0 20 2Full Tearing

rifle basic 70m S/3/- 1D10+2 R 0 40 2Full Tearing

Given that the description of Shard weapons says that the rifle and pistol can both use the same the same ammunition clip, I would assume that the only one of the above options that could work is the first one, as the clips are identical.

Penetration is an unknown, although I personally think it should be 1. The Rending versus Impact damage seems like a simple error more than anything else.

Opinions?

Hellebore

I would have to agree. They are all rending and I go for the PEN 1.

So top.

I would use the following home brewn solution:

All of them "rending"
All of them "Pen: 1"

Not the "100" clips but the smaller one.

Which size, 20 or 40?

The background for shard weapons says that their ammunition clips are interchangable between the pistol and rifle, so you need a clip with the same number of ammunition in it.

Hellebore

The background for shard weapons says that their ammunition clips are interchangable between the pistol and rifle, so you need a clip with the same number of ammunition in it.

Considering the fuzzy nature of xeno-tech, the second one may be correct. If memory serves, the whole thing works by knocking little crystal shards loose from the ammo crystal - if the gun could do that more efficiently than the pistol, you'd get more shots out of the same amount of crystal.

Otherwise, I'd also assume the first version is correct. Xeno weapons tend to be better.

Cifer said:

Otherwise, I'd also assume the first version is correct. Xeno weapons tend to be better.

It's all a matter of perspective. Enoulian shard rifles aren't really better when you consider for every one rifle the Imperium probably possesses 100,000 meltaguns...

Hellebore

It's all a matter of perspective. Enoulian shard rifles aren't really better when you consider for every one rifle the Imperium probably possesses 100,000 meltaguns...

They likely possess quite a few more. If we said that one in every thousand worlds of the Imperium was capable of producing meltaguns, then (assuming the generic "Imperium of a million worlds") each world would have produced only a hundred guns.

So let's settle for "Xenos tend to have a better tech/person ratio".

I'd go with the stats from the character entry, but with both R. Clip size 100 for both too.

-Tim

Armory entry because I never look at the character weapon stats