How much equipment can we put as internal and considered upgrades to the droid; such as goggles, macrobinoculars, datapad, long range commlink, etc.

Are their established limits yet. I could not find any.

Thanks

FreeXenon said:

That's a good question. I don't think there is a set limit. The rules for internal droid equipment were added in the beta updates (first page of the final update) and they don't mention an encumberance limit. I'd say discuss with your GM to determine what's appropriate for your campaign.

As a GM, I'd probably do use one of the following general rules:

1. Reduce the encumberance rating of internal gear by 1 (to a minimum of 0). So droid PCs could have all the internal gear they wanted, but anything larger than a 1 would count against the droid's total encumberance because incorporating that big gear would make the droid's chassis progressively more awkward.
2. Incoporated gear does not count against the droids total encumberance. Droids can have as many pieces of gear incorporated with enc rating 1 or 0 as they like, and one piece of gear with enc rating 2.

Again, as a GM I'd be willing to review exceptions on a case by case basis to accomodate character concepts.

-WJL

FreeXenon said:

As things currently stand, the only limit is what the GM says is the limit. So hypothetically, the droid could have 20 Encumbrance worth of gear noted as being "internal components."

In so far as I know (and don't really have the ability to pull up the Beta Updates to check), any gear that's been made an internal component still counts against the droid's total encumbrance value. At least that's what I went by when writing up R2-B08 for the Gamer Security Agency, though I also made liberal use of backpacks as "internal storage space" to offset the encumbrance total of all the gear that I'd packed into the little guy.

As a side note, most droids don't have stuff incorporated in them. C3PO holds a comlink in his hand. Battle droids use binoculars. This is one of the main ways Droids differ from most other universes' view of robots/computers.

I think that "equipment can be internal" thing was not to be taken as anything other than a thematic thing.

A droid with 5 brawn, a Utility Belt, and a Backpack can still only carry up to 14 encumberance of items without getting limitations. The only difference is that all of those items could be in different cool compartments or built into the chasis of the droid instead of on actualy belts or backpacks or what have you. Like R2-D2, you could have a bunch of little hatches to bring out all your items, or you could have wrist-mounted blasters or what not. I would still count it as the same encumberance, though.

Now, if the GM doesn't care about encumberance, then who cares? XD. But yea, I think you're over thinking it. Droids, and even PC players, should be invited and encouraged to come up with really cool thematic ways to carry their gear if they have them . Don't want to have a dorky backpack? Call it a "Weapon Sling" instead, or just add additional little pockets on the inside of your cloak. The possibilities are endless!

Doc, the Weasel said:

While in contrast, you've got R2-D2 who seems to just about everything except a blaster or a kitchen sink installed him. Decent-range scanners, on-board data storage, rockets, fire extinquishers, computer interface links… da works.

I guess it comes down to deciding what equipment makes sense to be an internal compenent for your droid PC and what doesn't.

Alright, that is what I was thinking.

Thanks!