Bipod/Tripod and Basic Weapons

By HappyDaze, in Only War

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bogi_khaosa said:

Which is absurd.

Play whatever way you want, but the idea of a guy firing an unbraced rapid-fire tank gun makes me lose my suspension of disbelief so fast I would just leave the room laughing.

If you believe that a tank gun only weighs in at 40kg, then you would be the one getting laughed at. Regardless that they use it as a tank gun, the M34 is obviously much lighter and intended to be man-portable (it's a Heavy weapon, not a Vehicle weapon), and so Bulging Biceps covers it's use quite well.

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Arkangilos said:

HappyDaze said:

Nefasine said:

Your misquoting the book

The discription says:

"Complete with tripod brace, silencer, and telescopic sight , in the right hands of a skilled marksman it can easily turnt he tide of a battle"

A standard SP sniper rife does not come with tripod and sight but when they are attached it makes a mean weapon. It does come with integral noise baffles which does the exact same thing as a silencer (if bulk is a hastle - house rule that it doesnt have the baffles and allow it to take a silencer at a later date).

Where I come from, an item that says "Complete with [something]" means that it comes with that something, not that you need to get [something] to make it complete. Besides, your take doesn't make any sense with regards to the silencer since the weapon already has an integral suppressor that functions identically.

Here's an example:

'The Office' takes a final bow in Scranton, complete with Steve Carell

Does viewer need to add in Steve Carell to make the final episode complete, or is it clear that he's already in the episode and that the episode is complete with him in it? I say the latter, and following the same reasoning, the sniper rifle includes those items that it is listed as being "complete with" such as the tripod and telescopic sight.

If you put the "complete" in the rear, like in your example you would be right. However, when complete is in the front, it changes the context of it. Therefore, "Complete with tripod brace, silencer, and telescopic sight , in the right hands of a skilled marksman it can easily turn the tide of a battle" Comes to mean that it doesn't come with that, but if it did. The "when" is silent, so to say :P

Your grasp of the English language is questionable. Your 'silent when' would change the meaning of the sentence, but that's not what it says. Adding that would make it conditional, but that's not there. In fact, the conditional is the paired phrases you bolded "in the right hands" and "of a skilled marksman" but there is nothing conditional about the fact that the weapon is "Complete with tripod brace, silencer, and telescopic sight" per the description.

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I would say as a house rule the best way to deal with a basic weapon with bipod/tripod would be to say they have to set up the bipod with a half action and their weapon has to fire in a 45 degree arc to receive the benefits though another half action can be used to reposition to another 45 degree angle.

When braced with a bipod it reduces the time it takes to use the aim action, allowing a +10 aim bonus with only a free action and a +20 bonus with a half aim action. This bonus would stack with other bonuses such as Accurate weapons and Laser Sights.