3 Newb-ish Questions

By Viper114, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Fairly new player here, got the hang of the game but I have some questions I want to confirm with the veterans that the FAQ here does NOT answer (I checked).

1. If a card effect that is NOT the Black Raven or the White Raven makes it Summer or Winter (such as the Crown of Winter or Crown of Meereen), are the +1 Gold or -1 Gold effects still applicable? From what someone described to me, if I made it Winter with the Crown of Winter we'd suffer -1 Gold, so I figured it was a rulebook effect. Yet there is no entry in the rulebook that specifically says this, only the Raven cards actually say this.

2. If a card has a title that shares the same name as a Trait in some way, would that count as the appropriate trait for card effects? For example, Sea Raiders call themselves Raiders but they lack the actual Raider trait, are they still considered a Raider for the numerous cards that effect them, like Longships or Euron Crow's Eye? I am assuming not, but it wouldn't hurt to check.

3. If a card has Immunity, is it also immune to MY cards, or just the opponent's? For example, is Red Viper from PotS who is "Immume to Events and Character Abilities" entirely immune to my events and character abilities as well as theirs? I am assuming yes, but again, checking.

That's it for now. Thanks to those who come along and answer appropriately.

Viper114 said:

Fairly new player here, got the hang of the game but I have some questions I want to confirm with the veterans that the FAQ here does NOT answer (I checked).

1. If a card effect that is NOT the Black Raven or the White Raven makes it Summer or Winter (such as the Crown of Winter or Crown of Meereen), are the +1 Gold or -1 Gold effects still applicable? From what someone described to me, if I made it Winter with the Crown of Winter we'd suffer -1 Gold, so I figured it was a rulebook effect. Yet there is no entry in the rulebook that specifically says this, only the Raven cards actually say this.

2. If a card has a title that shares the same name as a Trait in some way, would that count as the appropriate trait for card effects? For example, Sea Raiders call themselves Raiders but they lack the actual Raider trait, are they still considered a Raider for the numerous cards that effect them, like Longships or Euron Crow's Eye? I am assuming not, but it wouldn't hurt to check.

3. If a card has Immunity, is it also immune to MY cards, or just the opponent's? For example, is Red Viper from PotS who is "Immume to Events and Character Abilities" entirely immune to my events and character abilities as well as theirs? I am assuming yes, but again, checking.

That's it for now. Thanks to those who come along and answer appropriately.

1. Seasons themselves do not affect income. Only the ravens do, because they specifically say so on the card.

2. Nope. Has to have the trait to gain any benefits or suffer any penalties associated through any card effect.

3. If it doesn't say "opponent's" or "your," then it's everyone. That particular Red Viper is one of the prime examples. Neither player can use an event or character ability that is trying to affect just him, and, if it is a generalized effect (like Westeros Bleeds), he will not be affected by it.

No. The income modifications are card effects specific to the ravens, not rulebook effects linked to the season.

No. Sea Raiders are not Raider , no matter how logical it might seem, and Lady (Sansa's direwolf) is definitely no Lady (doesn't seem so logical now, right?). Traits will always be highlighted in card text with bold italic, while card titles will be in plain type.

The immunity would need to be more specific. For instance, Riders of the Red Fork is "immune to opponents' events" and Cat o' Canals is "immune to opponents' card effects". The Red Viper (Princes of the Sun) is "immune to events and character abilities", which means any player's, including your own.

That's what I figured on all accounts, I just needed to be sure. But, one could never be too sure unless they ask. Thanks for clarifying!