Pentoshi manor.

By player724529, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hi a question about Pentoshi manor.

If pentoshi manor is used on a character he lose all his keywords, that's ok. But if after it has been used I give back some keywords, does it cancel also the keywords gain after it has been used?

See this thread: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efpag=0&efid=18&efcid=4&efidt=810970

Here was FFG's answer for convenience:

Loses all, regardless of whether it is keywords or traits, means that character loses one instance of every one of those things in the game. So if keywords is what is being lost and the character had stealth and deadly it would lose both of those keywords. If you tried to give it renown it would lose that as well. But it only loses one instance of each. If you played an attachment which gave the character another instance of stealth it would be Steath + Stealth - Stealth = Steath.
Treat a card effect that says "loses all" as if the word all were replaced with one instance of each keyword (or trait or icon, tc.) that exists in the game.

Hi guys,

What happen if a character's strength cannot be lowered and I use Pentoshi Manor on it?

Does it lose the keywords or not if the opponent chooses the second option (character remains in challenge)?

It loses the keywords. There is no dependance between effects, unless they are linked by a "then".

Hi a question about Pentoshi manor.

If pentoshi manor is used on a character he lose all his keywords, that's ok. But if after it has been used I give back some keywords, does it cancel also the keywords gain after it has been used?

If they are keywords the character already had, they will gain them back. If they didn't have them to start with, they will not gain them until after the phase is over, because 1-1=0

Hi a question about Pentoshi manor.

If pentoshi manor is used on a character he lose all his keywords, that's ok. But if after it has been used I give back some keywords, does it cancel also the keywords gain after it has been used?

If they are keywords the character already had, they will gain them back. If they didn't have them to start with, they will not gain them until after the phase is over, because 1-1=0

Hold on a second. I thought 2 - 1 = 0? Have I been playing this game all wrong? Maybe that's why I didn't do well in Worlds...

Hi a question about Pentoshi manor.

If pentoshi manor is used on a character he lose all his keywords, that's ok. But if after it has been used I give back some keywords, does it cancel also the keywords gain after it has been used?

If they are keywords the character already had, they will gain them back. If they didn't have them to start with, they will not gain them until after the phase is over, because 1-1=0

Hold on a second. I thought 2 - 1 = 0? Have I been playing this game all wrong? Maybe that's why I didn't do well in Worlds...

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Hi a question about Pentoshi manor.

If pentoshi manor is used on a character he lose all his keywords, that's ok. But if after it has been used I give back some keywords, does it cancel also the keywords gain after it has been used?

If they are keywords the character already had, they will gain them back. If they didn't have them to start with, they will not gain them until after the phase is over, because 1-1=0

Hold on a second. I thought 2 - 1 = 0? Have I been playing this game all wrong? Maybe that's why I didn't do well in Worlds...

???

Yes! Yes! Yes! It is why Bomb did bad at worlds!