Since the Faclon and Firespray are labeled as "medium" sized ships what do you think will change in the game?

My idea is the point value of tournament/league games , maybe up to 150 pts?

Ok what did I miss? I thought the Falcon and Slave 1 where the large ships? The expansion advertisement on FF reads:

“Fly the legendary Millennium Falcon into fast-paced battles for the fate of the galaxy! The Millennium Falcon™ Expansion Pack for the X-Wing™ Miniatures Game allows players to blast through hyperspace with Han, Chewie, Lando, and more. The Millennium Falcon comes with four pilot cards, thirteen upgrades, and all requisite tokens. New rules expand the X-Wing galaxy to include large ships and modifications. With its pilots, upgrades, and lovingly detailed miniature, the Millennium Falcon Expansion Pack is a beautiful addition to the X-Wing game!”

And the new rules for both classify them as large ships on page 2.

I would love to have larger ships so please tell me what I missed?

Boomer_J said:

there was a bit in the core set rule book that implied that wave 2 would include medium ships and even larger ships later. Everyone the. Disregarded all the mentions of Large Ship rules in the wave 2 stuff.

Hard to say since we don't have a crystal ball into the mind of FFG.

I think that a GR-75 transport (or similar large ship) could be a great scenario-driven play piece.

Personally, I'd rather that they were scenario- instead of tourney-driven.

Just imagine the fun you could have with a Corellian Gunship

There was also that rumor on the German forum that said some exclusive group of people was shown the new ships and they included "large ships" and that the Slave 1 and Millennium Falcon are actually "medium ships." Personally, I didn't believe any of it.

I've been wondering if the B-Wing and TIE Bomber will be medium sized (30mm x 30mm base), but I really can't see anything larger than 40mm being on the board.

I went and read the announcement, and there's nothing I've seen that implies large ships, or even anything other than the current base sizes.

You certainly don't need a new base size or new faction to change the meta. Any new ship will do that, as players figure out how they combine with the others.

That said, I certainly hope that we get "large" ships someday, as I think they'd be fun, but I really doubt it will be this time.

Here's my guess. We've heard that this next release will be a smaller one.

We've heard that the Falcon and Slave are medium ships.

We've now seen that FFG will be releasing star mat game tiles.

My guess: this next release will be two miniatures and two large tile ships. These will have new rules they don't move, multiple shots, etc)

We will find out on May 4th

Anything larger than a Corellian Corvette will make the game as we know it unplayable without fudging the scale or playing on a much larger(and more boring in dog fighting terms) map. For an idea, take 10 Falcon/Slave One bases and line them up 5x2. That is roughly the amount of space a Corvette takes up. It's listed as 150 meters long and 48ish meters wide.

So, no Dreadnaught heavy cruisers for us. They're listed at 600 meters long.

But, we don't know if the ships will get any larger.

OMG. I go away from this forum for a short while and the whole medium ships thing comes out again.

Apparently it requires my constant vigilance to prevent threads of this type from proliferating on the interwebs.

Consider this thread closed.

Nothing. Large ships are already in the game.

They are called the YT-1300 and the Firespray-31.

So anyway to the response of "thread closed" and such if you say there will be no way that FFG will realease a say STAR DESTROYER in some shape or form you must be silly. If FFG has no intention of this by way of playmat , fully 3D model for the table , or whatever they decide they wont be able to keep up with smaller size ships forever. Now we realize that Star Wars is a high dollar money making name and if FFG doesnt (if you like it or not) will need to somewhat cater to the hardcore fans , if they do not then the game will not survive as long as any player would like. So again dont say things you dont know just reply to the HYPTOTHETICAL question that was asked or not at all. TY

And sorry to sound crabby above but to come on and say that "you know what will happen" is silly. Go through and name EVERY ship you can think of that would be no bigger than what we have now and see how many "waves" can be realeased after that. Now FFG can go POD with new piolots and upgrades but eventually will run out of those ideas as well. If you cut out the idea of larger ships then you cut out 1/2 of the game. Have you ever seen the WOTC Star Wars minatures? If not take a look at the AT-AT its hugh , also sold out fast because while maybe not playable it was a popular model anyway. Have you seen or played WH40K? Look at apocalype modeals , they sell like crazy but people want them. My above point is that FFG "MAY" realease bigger models but to say you know they wont is like when the world ended on 12-21-12 because people said it would.

Sorry to triple post but no edit button

After reading the Falcon rules it states that it has a base larger than those found in the starter set and that such ships will be classified as large ships , but it in no way states that these will be the LARGEST ships made but they will follow these rules. So IF larger ships are released then again what do you think will change?

Larger ships would make bombers more viable and could open the door for some boarding craft. I did a thread awhile back about boarding craft and how they could be used to capture or repair large ships and reload bombers. I think this would be awesome but a lot of people thought it would be lame. There are a lot of big ship haters out there but that does not stop me from dreaming BIG and making my own big ships.

History as we know it:

1. FFG advertise Falcon and Slave 1 as MEDIUM ships

2. FFG realises mistake, corrects themselves and puts out a release saying Falcon and Slave 1 are LARGE ships, and there won't be anything bigger. All information since then, including that included with Falcon and Slave 1 refers to them as LARGE ships.

3. People get hooked up on point 1 and make stupid threads like this.

I would love large ships and rules for them in the game I think it would make bombers more useful and would give the game more ways to be played. But till may no-one can be to sure what ships are coming out, only ffg know.

Well Ty for the ACTUAL replys to my question

Anyway it seems that we will never get away from the trolls who have nothing valid to say but anyway thanks again.

I just wish I could tell the future like some so I could call people stupid for asking a question too.

rapatpamp said:

The only time I"ve seen Forgeworld models hit the table was when a spoiled rich kid brought two of them to try smashing us in a vehicle battle.

I think the best model to compare X-Wing's future to is Wings of Glory. That game has small and large aircraft and has been going on for a while… were Zeppelins ever officially sold? I don't remember seeing any…

In rapatpamp’s defense and all others who have ben bashed for their threads, this is a forum, a place where people come to discuss their love for the game. Everyone loves this game or they would not be on here. Some like to know every detail about the rules, others love to micromanage squads and stats, and some love to talk about what ifs. And yes some of those what ifs include what if we had big ships. I’m sure FF looks in here every now and then to see what the buzz is all about and to get a feel for what the players want. So if you want something talk about it on here. If you don’t want it don’t talk about it and go talk about what you want in another thread. Some negative feedback is good because that’s how you work all the bugs and kinks out of an idea to make it even better. But to put someone down just because they like something you don’t think is important or is not what you like is just not cool. If it’s a bad thread it will fizzle out on its own in a short time. This thread is doing its job. Rapatpamp got some people talking about what they love about this game. GOOD JOB Rapatpamp! Keep on posting.

I'm just responding to the ignorance of calling the Falcon and Slave 1 models "medium" ships. They are now, and have always been, "Large" ships. This is not my opinion or a figure of speech. This is a matter of how game elements are defined in the rules. You can speculate all you want about the possibility of either Capital ships being introduced (I think and hope not) or of a true "Medium" level ship being introduced with a base size between the origianl starfighter and the "Large" ship (This I think is a possibility and would be cool) but just don't call the YT-1300 or the Firespray "medium" ships. It's inaccurate and misleading.

Norsehound said:

The actually did - spotting balloons as opposed to the big zeps, but they did have them. They also came with a balloon buster biplane with rockets, which needed something as big and stationary as a balloon to hit in those days.

godofcheese said:

No one is getting hooked up on anything like that. Someone on a German forum said Wave 3 was shown to an exclusive group of people at some sort of German show and that there were larger ships shown, making Falcon and Slave 1 medium ships. This was from a week or two ago. I have a feeling it was completely fabricated, but that is the source of the new rumor.

rapatpamp said:

or, people haven't seen the second point. I know I missed the subtly of the clarification.

Luckily, the "enthusiasm" of the corrective comments in this thread means I now know :-)

A larger ship at 10cm dosn't make sense to justify the larger size and 12cm is HUGE compared to the standard 3x3 size or the largest buildable field with their new tile kit, 3x4. What I could see is for some reason either a 6 cm base or a rectangular base for some reason. I just don't think with the way asteroids work and the standard size that we'll get bigger ships.

A 12cm base would be 2 Straight faster than a normal sized ship. When ionized, it would be doing the same distance as an X-Wing going 3 Straight.