Overlapping friendliest and squad building

By jedi moose, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Hi guys. I'm new to the game (and forum) and have a few questions I haven't been able to find good answers to. They are very basic questions so I'm surprised I can't find anything on them, which makes me feel I must be missing or overlooking something. I've read the rule book and the FAQ several times and spent hours searching and studying these forums. So here goes:

1) if I end my movement "overlapping" a friendly do I still lose my action or does that only apply to enemy ships?

2) when squad building how do you determine who gets to use an upgrade if both players want to use the same one and you only have one upgrade card? For example, I only have one determination upgrade at the moment but both players want to use it. I assume this is settled by rolling dice and comparing focus results but I want to confirm.

3) Related to question 2, when squad building how do you "secretly" select your upgrades if you only have one game set and therefore only one complete set of upgrades? I assume there is no official rule on this but hoping someone has a good way to handle it.

Thanks for the help

jedi moose said:

Hi guys. I'm new to the game (and forum) and have a few questions I haven't been able to find good answers to. They are very basic questions so I'm surprised I can't find anything on them, which makes me feel I must be missing or overlooking something. I've read the rule book and the FAQ several times and spent hours searching and studying these forums. So here goes:

1) if I end my movement "overlapping" a friendly do I still lose my action or does that only apply to enemy ships?

2) when squad building how do you determine who gets to use an upgrade if both players want to use the same one and you only have one upgrade card? For example, I only have one determination upgrade at the moment but both players want to use it. I assume this is settled by rolling dice and comparing focus results but I want to confirm.

3) Related to question 2, when squad building how do you "secretly" select your upgrades if you only have one game set and therefore only one complete set of upgrades? I assume there is no official rule on this but hoping someone has a good way to handle it.

Thanks for the help

1. The overlapping rules apply regardless of whether the other ship is friendly or an enemy. You just have to watch where you go.

2. In a friendly game, you can both agree to use the card even if you only have one. You could also copy the card on a piece of paper to use in the game. In a tournament, however, you have to have the real thing.

3. Same answer as #2.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for the response. It helps a lot.

The answers are about what i figured. Great idea about making copies of the cards for friendly play.

I understand the answer to number one, but disagree with it on principle. Not saying you are wrong, I'm sure you are right according to the rules of the game since nothing specifies that friendlies don't follow the same rules. But I feel that in a space dogfight two friendly ships would be flying in very close proximity as wingmen, side by side usually but its 3D space so one on top of the other is completely reasonable as well. And friendlies would be in contact with each other and aware of where each pilot is to a certain degree. Which i feel is different from a Rebel Pilot saying "Holy crap! Where did that Tie Fighter come from", and then frantically trying to avoid a collision. But its a minor thing to pick on in an awesome game

Thanks again for the help. Happy gaming

jedi moose said:

Thank you for the response. It helps a lot.

The answers are about what i figured. Great idea about making copies of the cards for friendly play.

I understand the answer to number one, but disagree with it on principle. Not saying you are wrong, I'm sure you are right according to the rules of the game since nothing specifies that friendlies don't follow the same rules. But I feel that in a space dogfight two friendly ships would be flying in very close proximity as wingmen, side by side usually but its 3D space so one on top of the other is completely reasonable as well. And friendlies would be in contact with each other and aware of where each pilot is to a certain degree. Which i feel is different from a Rebel Pilot saying "Holy crap! Where did that Tie Fighter come from", and then frantically trying to avoid a collision. But its a minor thing to pick on in an awesome game

Thanks again for the help. Happy gaming

Well i won't plan on it now :-) If there was no penalty i thought it might be a good strategy to purposely overlap so as to get a cluster of ships who have a good shot on an enemy to take him out in one round. It might not be a strategy with a lot of finess but it is effective. It still might be even with the penalty on not using an action.

Still better to do a tight formation without overlapping ;-)