naval enhancements and kicking your own teeth in…?

By Hastur403, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Okay so in the FAQ it says that you are allowed, after attackers and defenders have been assigned to assign a legal naval enhancement character the the combat as attacker or defender. It goes on to say that this means you can attack yourself by joining one of your naval characters with your opponents attack….If he wins the challange does that mean you both win as the attacker? If so what happens then? I mean it sounds like a stupid question and I would think the answer would be no since its their challange. anyone have any idea how this resolves?

Could I join my copy of The Reader in their attack…let it go unopposed, "win" the challenge and make them discard the top three cards of their deck? Tell me that it's not that stupid?

If you initiated the challenge, you are the attacker and the other player is the defender. The fact that you might have a character on the defending side doesn't make you the winner.

In your example with the Reader, you could jump the Reader in on your opponent's side, but your opponent would be the winner, not you.

thats what I figured I just didnt see a point in having the ability to throw in enhanced characters on the opposing side. I suppose at some point there may be cards that do stuff for that very reason.

Hastur403 said:

thats what I figured I just didnt see a point in having the ability to throw in enhanced characters on the opposing side. I suppose at some point there may be cards that do stuff for that very reason.

It allows you to trigger "if you win a challenge where you have declared a naval attacker…" if you win on defense. Black Sails effect is one example.

Bomb said:

Hastur403 said:

thats what I figured I just didnt see a point in having the ability to throw in enhanced characters on the opposing side. I suppose at some point there may be cards that do stuff for that very reason.

It allows you to trigger "if you win a challenge where you have declared a naval attacker…" if you win on defense. Black Sails effect is one example.

I used that one all the time with my black sails deck against my friend's stealth deck (Bara rush). He would declare a challenge, forgetting about all my guys with enhancements, I would jump in a weenie on his side and enough strength to win before he ever got the chance for stealth… all so I could trigger my agenda without having to risk leaving myself open to attack (usually went first). His face was priceless.

You might have Areo Hotah and want to ensure you lose the challenge by 4 or more

Except that Martell didn't get any naval icons (though Alliance or out-of-house is still possible).

Khudzlin said:

Except that Martell didn't get any naval icons (though Alliance or out-of-house is still possible).

Yeah. Which makes thematic sense, but sucks for Martell players in our meta.