Hi, I just bought the game after 1 match with my friend and I love the rules, but…

… after I connected all components I noticed that movement wheels have small mark on the side originated from the sheet. It is visible from pretty far away and can be used to determine hidden manouver .

For example: if X-wing has this mark on the selected part, it means "forward 3" or "turn right 3". If its somewhere else I instantly know that he won't be doing these manouvers.

Since the game is based on hidden manouvers such information ruins the fun totally . Actually the mark is present on my all three manouver wheels so probably most of you have it too.

How do you manage to play with this? How is it solved on tournaments? Do you use some cups to cover the manouver wheels? Have anyone else got this problem?

Should I return or sell the game? I'm pretty dissapointed and mad at the moment and actually I regret I bought this.

Here's what I'm talking about:

You know, I never noticed that before, but I went and looked at my dials: I see exactly what you're talking about. If it makes you feel better, the dial from the X-Wing expansion has a similar mark, but it's in a completely different part of the wheel.

I don't have a good solution for you (although the covering the dials with cups isn't terrible), but there are a resourceful lot of people on these forums; maybe one of them can help. It'd be easy enough to build a new maneuver dial, I think.

When I played in a tournament, not a single person there mentioned it, and I don't feel as though anyone was taking advantage of it (though of course I could be wrong).

I haven't seen this issue with my stuff and without pics, can't really comment. If you are that upset, maybe email FFG your complaint with the pics and see what they can do to help.

I haven't noticed this before and really don't care enough to check, but IMO if you're paying that close attention, you're caring too much. Just ignore it and not be so focused, just have fun.

On the other hand, you could carefully trim it off with a hobby knife.

DingusFett said:

I tried to use nail file, but it didn't work at all. Actually it made it even worse. I'm not a miniature specialist and I don't want to be one.

Make a number of similiar marks in different parts of circle.

Trust me, in the heat of battle not many people will notice, most of my dials have this and are heaivily worn, it doesnt make a difference really.you will have the same advantage over your opponent.

I'd conntact FFG. They are good about replacing stuff.

Libero03 said:

Seriously? You used a file on cardboard and you're surprised that it didn't work? You don't have to be a "miniature specialist" to use a knife. Just make sure its a sharp one. I'm guessing that you don't have an Exacto, so pick up a 99 cent utility knife at Wal-Mart, Home Depot, or pretty much anywhere else and trim it off.

Picasso said:

The problem is that this is inherent to every wheel - that bump is an artifact from when the piece was punched out of the sheet.

You are suposed to choose a manouver and put it down. If your competitor is looking at your dial then choosing the manover simply quit. Only jerks will do that. I mean…whats the point on knowing once its down? You already choose a move…Imperials have advantage over that…

:/

…and you can always place your dial in a way that your opponent cant see the nub.

I rarely, if ever, use the same dial for a particular ship each game….much less look at my opponents dials…

I appreciat the point, but really think you are over reacting. I've played many games and no one has ever noticed or cheated with this info. If you are really worried about it, put your dials down only after your opponent does (be sure not to look at theirs to be fair). Or, get an exacto knife and trim it off like others have said. I doubt FFG will do anything about it (nor should they)… it is just a game and if you are really worried about others taking advantage of this do a little work yourself to fix it. It's a small price to pay to not have your "game ruined."

As shown on BGG while all dials may have a nub, some have multiple, and they all can vary in position.

So for your opponent to take advantage of this they'd have to know all of your dials and thier nub positions, know which of those dials were put with each ship, and be able to see the nub and window from across the table.

Not to mention you can easily take it off with clippers or a hobby knife.

I do not see this as an issue, let alone a game ruining one in anyway. I think the OP overreacted in spades.

Didn't notice the problem myself. But i sand(fine grit paper) all my cardboard pices for games.

Im pretty sure this guy is joking…. its likesomething youd see on a spongebob episode. My Crabby Patty days are ruined! My burger was burned *shows a red raw crabby patty. zooms in 10X to a little spec that is still to hard to see without the use of an arrow….

just cut, paint, and varnish it.

You have got to be kidding me

Before the Kessel Run Tournament, I took a black Sharpie to the edges of my cardboard components to try and keep them from getting mixed up with my opponents' pieces. I didn't do it for my maneuver dials, but I think it'd probably work all the same.

I did kind of a stripe pattern because I thought maybe somebody else would color them solid. Also because I got bored and my fingers were turning black.

For most players, I can't imagine that this sort of thing is an issue.

However, if you're playing competitively against someone who is (a) fanatic and (b) someone who would "cheat" in this way, there are solutions.

Take a very sharp razor blade (hobby knife or box cutter with a fresh blade) and carefully cut off the offensive bump. Then take a Sharpie and blacken the entire outside of the disc. That ought to fix it.

First I would like to say, since no one else on the forums really seemed to notice this, you kind of just ruined it for a bunch of people, and most likely just gave a ton of people a new way at cheating so congratulations on that.

Second, if something this small is going to bother you so much than yes. Quit the game, because god forbid you buy a random X-wing mini and it's engine is slightly tilted I'm sure you will flip a biscuit.

Third, if you really can't find a super easy solution, such as putting even a strip of paper over them, or using a trust system, this game can't possibly be the game for you.

Libero03 said:

You're regretting buying it? Because of one little mark? Isn't that a teensy weensy bit over the top?

Especially when you can remove that mark from your wheels very easily…

I seriously hope this is not at all a serious complaint. If it is you have bigger problems than a dimple on your maneuver dial.

Even if this was a real complaint it would be easily rectified by simply placing the dial on your pilot card with the dimple positioned away from your opponents view. Nobody like dials scattered across a nice looking game table. Darn card players… A sharp exacto knife or drum sander on a Dremel all fix this tiny imnperfection also.

Or you could just go on the internet to complain and whine.

paradox23 said:

How was this not immediately suggested…