Just curious - have not played them yet, but why are there dpubles of sets?

SO YOU CAN PLAY WITH TWO COPIES.

Yep, the rules explain that unless limited to one per deck, you may play two copies of an Objective set. Basically, this means that you get everything you need in the Force pack.

Holliday88 said:

I see what you did there <<

Exactly right. To be honest, FFG is are doing the xpacs right. Everything you need is in that box. No point in buying 2 xpacs unless you plan on making several decks.

karatechop said:

Oddly, they broke the tradition and are making Edge of Darkness a "one-of" box, so you'll need to buy two of those. Hopefully that'll turn out to be a thing exclusive to that, as it should be absolutely stuffed wtih Scum and Smugglers Objectives, and maybe two-of-each would have put the price point of the box well above their normal pricing structure.

cleardave said:

Let's hope the other deluxe expansions don't stick to that…

Darthvegeta800 said:

It wouldn't be the worst thing. Ultimately, there's 132 unique cards in that box, and as long as there isn't more than a single "one per deck" objective for each side, I wouldn't be too miffed. A full playset of almost 300 cards would probably run more than $20, so I'm fine with it if the extra box doesn't generate a lot of dead weight for me.

cleardave said:

Maybe. Wouldn't be the end of the world but i'd still rather not. Makes it all far more affordable. Not to mention it would ensure a slower and hopefully more contained expansion of the cardpool.

Darthvegeta800 said:

I guess I give it a pass because the aim of Edge of Darkness is to provide a solid injection of Scum and Smugglers into the game where they are just existing as a couple of Objectives on each side (accounting for the cards to be released in the Hoth cycle).

If the big box expansions carry on with another "big release" idea like the Multiplayer rules, and support it with a lot of cards, then it won't offend to much if my dollars provide that much more usability. I do agree that affordability is always an issue, especially if you're collecting other things in tandem, so we'll all just need to be responsible gamers and start putting that cash in the coffee tin that much sooner.

For those of you that play the other LCGs from FFG, do the big box expansions usually include more tokens/rules? Seems like EOD box is a lot of packaging for 132 cards.

Hmm, pretty sure I only hit Publish once on that one…

Holliday88 said:

Keep in mind the expansion boxes are about a third the size of the core set boxes. Still a lot of extra packaging though.

As for new stuff, the LOTR expansions I've bought haven't had any new tokens, but they did introduce new card types that had new rules associated with them (the sack mechanics for the Hobbit expansions for example).

DailyRich said:

Oooohhh, it's that size box. Obviously I thought it was core set size.

Speaking of hitting publish only once, DailyRich, take a look at this screenshot I took awhile back. All DailyRich, all the time.

http://imgur.com/NQlhFN4

Speaking of the big box expansion…

It's now at the factory according to the Upcoming page! Yay!

Though I doubt it'll actually be out in May like the tourny rules suggested. The May force pack has been at the factory for a few weeks already and I'm guessing a big expansion will take even longer…

Holliday88 said:

That happens quite a bit with this site. I've seen days where every single forum had the exact same number of posts in it.

cleardave said:

It says "Its twenty-two unique objective sets…" So every set in that expansion is unique, does it mean that they all will be limited one per deck? Or is that marketing jargon…

Well, FFG has stated that competitive players will want to buy 2 copies of EoD, so I suspect that most, if not all, OSets will not be unique

Hannibal_pjv said:

I would imagine that they won't all be one-per-deck Objectives, and that by "unique" they mean "different from each other". So while it is possible that some of those 22 Objective sets will be one-per-deckers, most will likely be two-per-deckers, and would thus require you to by two of the big box expansions to have a full set, which is why I said it breaks their current tradition in providing "maximum playable copies" in the expansions.

Does anyone have any idea how the packs are going to play out post EoD- the line up will require either incomplete packs (missing factions/ missing 2nds of non- 1 per deck) or more cards

just Logan said:

I would imagine that the whole cycle (ie-all 6 packs combined) will offer some kind of mechanical cohesion for the relevant affiliations. For instance, I would expect the Hoth cycle to focus primarily on Rebel and Navy Objective sets with a sprinkling of Sith/Jedi/Smugglers/Scum for flavouring.

The question really becomes what the next cycle will choose as a theme, and when we get the announcement, it should become clear where the deck focus will be. I would imagine Jedi/Sith if Rebels and Navy get all the love from Hoth and Edge gives us all that Smugglers/Scum content, but only FFG knows for sure.

cleardave said:

Makes sense that after a Hoth (Rebel/Imperial) cycle we get a Dagobah (Jedi/Sith) cycle. Although I'm new to LCGs, and maybe they don't do things too chronologically…

I. J. Thompson said:

I can say there's nothing chronological about whats going on with regards to releases for this game. In the Core Set, we see concepts from Episode IV like Tarkin, Superlaser Blast, Devastator, but we also have things from Return of the Jedi like Home One, Ackbar, Mon Mothma, the Ewok Objective set, and some splashing of Empire with Redemption, the art of Last Minute Rescue, Cloud City Casino, and so on.

So really, what makes the most sense to me, after Hoth is done, and we get Edge of Darkness, is that FFG just surprises us all with a really smart follow-up cycle. By the end of summer, when Hoth and Edge of Darkness is all completely out, our humble Core Set matches will be expanded to a lot of variability. The follow-up cycle may be a lead in to the multiplayer big box expansion the rulebook alludes to, and to be honest, even if mechanically it isn't addressed, there are just so many ideas from those movies to work with for another cycle that we'll be well into 2014 before the "movie material" could potentially be exhausted.

Jedi Training (with a Sith counterpart?)

Cloud City

Endor on the ground

Endor in space

…and then maybe some EU-centric cycle or box, with my money being on a Shadows of the Empire tie-in as the next largest and recognized "Civil War Era" tale to plunder for more cards.

Yeah, I'm so happy that I don't have to buy 2 force packs. Glad they are including two of every objective set…