Another Naval Question

By kr4ng, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Can I attack with Fleet from Wolf's Den, then play distinct mastery as a standard player action, then use the naval enchancement as another player action in the same challenge from the same fleet from wolf's den in order to trigger black sails?

nevermind, the answer is no. I should have just looked at the rulebook first.

For those playing along at home, this trick only works if the Naval character is removed from the challenge. Just standing it doesn't remove it, and a currently attacking character cannot be declared as an attacker a second time. You could kneel it to declare it as a Naval attacker, but the declaration as an attacker would be considered unsuccessful - just like an attempt to kneel a character that is already kneeling would be considered unsuccessful.

ktom said:

For those playing along at home, this trick only works if the Naval character is removed from the challenge. Just standing it doesn't remove it, and a currently attacking character cannot be declared as an attacker a second time. You could kneel it to declare it as a Naval attacker, but the declaration as an attacker would be considered unsuccessful - just like an attempt to kneel a character that is already kneeling would be considered unsuccessful.

Are you sure? The FAQ reads:

Any time after an attack is declared, the attacking
or defending player can kneel a non-participating character with
a [Naval] enhancement on the matching challenge icon and declare it
as a [Naval] attacker or defender in that challenge.

This reads to me that you cannot even kneel it to begin with.

You are correct. I was going off of the general theory with card effects (where if initiation isn't blocked, you are welcome to pay the cost anyway) and forgetting about the specific limitation blocking it in the rules.