Since I asked Damon and some European dude asked Damon, and he gave two different answers to how flood waters executes, should the community agree with the the ruling that makes the card better for the interim (i.e., until it is clarified in an FAQ)?
flood waters (Again)
The better idea would be to check out the end of the discussion. The "European Guy" got in touch with Nate, who said:
"The original ruling made by ktom and backed up by Damon should be observed. The conflicting ruling likely emerged as a result of a misunderstanding in communication.
Looking at your rationale:
1) The effect is triggered "as if" the plot was just revealed, but it is not actually revealed
2) The event allows to trigger a River plot. According to AGOT Timing charts, triggering occurs in Step 1) Initiation. At Step 2), the event is considered to have been played/triggered even if cancelled (as per FAQ entry). So by its resolution in Step 3) we are no longer in the initiation/trigger phase when the River plot is "as if you had just revealed it". So now the "Then…" effect tries to initiate and fail.
Check it out in that other thread .
Sweet, i was running out of cards to use for proxy backs, now i have three more available.
dcdennis said:
Sweet, i was running out of cards to use for proxy backs, now i have three more available.
I will need to agree with this until they come out with a River plot that has an effect that would be worth triggering as an Any Phase effect. Almost every other "Any Phase" event is better than these River plots by themselves.
The river plots are interesting cards that just arent good enough. I feel like there could be a lot of unique decks if flood waters worked they way it should work and the river plots were just a bit better (either on stats or on effects). like the 1, 0, 1 that give 2 gold immediately. That could easily be 1, 9, 1, or it could be 1, 0, 2 (think city of soldiers which is 3, 0, 2).
I am not sure who designed the river plots, but they were obviously trolling hard.