BQ37 Dance to Loec
Order only.
Action: Play this card as a development (it does not count against your developmentlimit).

When I play the BQ37 Dance to Loec, does it trigger the effect of "when I play a development from my hand, …"?

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Since 'Dance to Loec' is a tactic, you may play it at any time you could normally play a tactic. You can also still play a development from your hand during the Capital Phase.

Sorry for my mistake

I want to ask the question is:

When I play the BQ37 Dance to Loec, does it trigger the effect of "when I play a development from my hand, …"?

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I would say yes, as you play it from your hand and it enters play as a development. While playing a card it is not considered to be in play until the action of playing it has been resolved. Tactics normally go from an out of play state (in your hand) to another out of play state (in your discard pile), this being an exception.

I don't think so. Let me take Spellsinger for example.

Spellsinger( Action: When you play a development from your hand, target development becomes a unit with P and 2 hit points until the end of the turn. It still counts as a development.)

It is just a tactic when I play Dance to Loec, so I can't trigger the action on Spellsinger in response. When it is resolved, Dance to Loec becomes a development, but it has missed the right opportunity ,that is "When you play a development from your hand", to trigger the action on Spellsinger.

Playing a development is different from development entering play. The trigger condition we discuss is "When you play a development from your hand". It is nothing to do with development entering play.

raygoo said:

I would disagree. The triggered action of Spellsinger has to be put on the chain at the first available opportunity (as with all triggered actions), but this can never be done until the event that triggered the action has resolved completely. When you play Dance to Loec, it has not become nor is it considered to be a development just played from your hand until the action in question has been resolved. Unless something has caused the resolution of Dance to Loec to fail, it will be considered to have entered play as a devlopment from your hand, therefore triggering the Spellsingers or any other cards action the have the wording "When you play a development from your hand…".

herzogar said:

If you want to trigger the action of Spellsinger correctly, you should play a development from your hand, and then trigger the action of Spellsinger in response. The chain resolves in reverse order. Resolve the action of Spellsinger and then the development enters play.

Playing a development from your hand is a action that can be in response to, so it is the first available opportunity to trigger the action that contains "When you play a development from your hand". It is nothing to do with development entering play.

“enter play as a devlopment from your hand” is not the right trigger condition of Spellsinger, and is quite different from "play a development from your hand"

Sorry, sometimes I have some trouble understanding certain explanations when it gets complicated and start to sound like a legal document. So is the answer to this question that it does NOT trigger "when you play a development from your hand" Actions?

Junglecat said:

It's probably more complicated than it really needs to be.

Short answer: Yes, Dance to Loec triggers "when you play a development from your hand" effects.

Comparatively short explanation:

The Action on Dance to Loec says: 'Play this card as a development'

The definition of 'Play' in the FAQ 2.0 (on p. 6) says: “Play” means to play from the hand, paying all costs and following all restrictions.

Case closed.

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Yes, it causes confusion because when you play Dance to Loec, you are playing a tactic, not a development. However, because the card specifically states that you play Dance to Loec as a development, it is a development as soon as you play it, rather than it becoming a development after resolution of the tactic.

The question I have is whether Dance to Loec, when played, enters the action chain as a development and a tactic, or as a development instead of a tactic. I tend to think the latter, but an official ruling would be nice.

When you play a tactic the effect is not yet active so DtL isn't a development.

When the chain is resolving it became a development. IMHO.