My apologies if this has been asked an answered already, but I can't get the "search" function to work quite right on these forums.

When Noise trashes a card from the top of the Corp's R&D with his ability, does the card go to Archives face-up or face down? The way I read the definition for Trash it seems as though when a card is trashed by the Runner, it goes face up in Archives. When a card is trashed by the Corp (that the Runner hasn't seen) it goes face down in Archives.

Can someone settle this debate?

Thanks,

Darik said:

When cards go to Archives, they maintain their state. Thus, a Rezzed ICE, Asset, or Upgrade would go face up. A played Operation would go face up. All other cards go face down. Even if the Runner has seen it (such as an Operation that they saw on an earlier R&D run or ICE they revelead through Infiltration), the card goes into Archives face down.

What if I access a card from R&D and pay the trash cost to trash it. Does it go face up or face down in archives? Similarly, what if I access a card from HQ and pay the trash cost - does it go face up or face down?

How about Operations or ICE trashed via a demolition run?

Thanks,

Cards trashed while being accessed go into Archives face-up.

Essentially, if the runner is able to see what the card is at the moment it's being trashed, it will go into Archives face-up.

Ah, yes, thank you for the added complication.

So if I get this right … Noise trashing a card with his ability (ie: playing a virus) doesn't get to see which card is sent to archives.

question: does the corp-player gets to see it? (at that instant, or after?) …

Noise doesn't get to see it.

The Corp can look at the face-down cards in Archives at any time.

Thx for the swift answer