ErikB said:
Someone could always try to answer that question with something other than 'I hate Jedi. I wish I never had to hear the word Jedi ever again. But if they absolutely must do Jedi they should suck. And if it comes out in two and a half years time when hopefully everyone has forgotten about it, so much the better'.
It's a good thing that no one said that, then. Except for you, of course, just now.
So people wouldn't object in principle if a way was found to get Jedi in to peoples hands sooner than two and a half years? Especially given the challenges involved in ensuring that a bottom up system doesn't break at high levels, or that almost all systems will require patching after contact with the real world, so it makes sense to start on that as soon as possible?
ErikB said:
So people wouldn't object in principle if a way was found to get Jedi in to peoples hands sooner than two and a half years? Especially given the challenges involved in ensuring that a bottom up system doesn't break at high levels, or that almost all systems will require patching after contact with the real world, so it makes sense to start on that as soon as possible?
Seriously, give it a rest. Please. Anyone who has even a passing familiarity with these boards is completely familiar with your opinion on the subject of Jedi-Jedi-Jedi. Continuing to bring it up at the drop of a hat (or anything else for that matter) just gets on peoples' nerves, and serves no useful purpose.
See, Star Wars Detours isn't happening. The 3D versions are shelved. The Clone Wars may be getting cancelled. 1313 is on hold.
Stuff is changing. I have no idea if FFGs stuff was negotiated with the knowledge that the sequels were coming, or if it is another thing that might get shelved as the previous regimes projects are discarded for the new direction.
ErikB said:
See, Star Wars Detours isn't happening. The 3D versions are shelved. The Clone Wars may be getting cancelled. 1313 is on hold.
The only factual statement in that tirade is that the 3D versions have been shelved to allow the Lucasfilm staff to focus on Episode 7.
Star Wars Detours is in production and still slated for 2013 release. Note a specific month hasn't been stated, just 2013. A quick Google search will bring up several links discussing this series, including IMDb and Wookieepedia, and there is zero mention of the series being cancelled.
On the Clone Wars, the series has had five seasons, which in today's TV market is quite an accomplishment, especially for an animated series. And much like any TV series, there's always been the risk of the show getting cancelled after the end of a season. And given how Cartoon Networks execs tend to have their heads up their asses (see cancellation of Justice League Unlimited, Young Justice, and Green Lantern Animated for starters), it's a surprise that Clone Wars has lasted as long as it has. So any talk of that show being cancelled right now is just baseless rumormongering. Dave Filoni seemed fairly confident of at least one more season with his fairly recent remark of "there's still more stories to tell." About the only real change that's projected for the series is that it'll be leaving Cartoon Network and heading over to Disney XD. It's also been doing pretty well both in terms of ratings and moving merchandise, so it'd be rather foolish of Disney/Lucasfilm to can the series on a whim.
Same with why 1313 is "on hold." There's been no official word from LucasArts or Disney on the matter, just rumors from an alleged "inside source." And there's also been rumors that the delay is more to wait for the next generation of gaming consoles, of which the PS4 was just announced, the delays could be less to do with the new Star Wars movies and more to do with wanting to produce a game for the top-of-the-line gaming consoles which are going to be capable of much more in terms of graphics & processing power than the current waning generation of consoles.
Obviously no one can say what will happen beyond the contract period, but I'm sure FFG will produce what they can as best they can while they have it. And all things going well, they could have an option to renegotiate for a new contract if they are meeting expectations. So, as per usual,only time will tell.
Every forum needs their Chicken Little. The funny thing is that they don't care if they are wrong or right. If they are wrong it is usually something good or great anyways, so it is all right that they were wrong. And if they are right then they get to proclaim how they called it and said it would happen, thereby increasing their status, if only in their own eyes. Beyond that I find them entertaining.
Don't wanna go too far off track here, but the only reason Disney might (and that's a pretty big might!) pull the plug on the various tv/video game spinoffs would be because those shows/games' stories might conflict with their own and, more importantly, might distract from the media buildup to the new films. Disney's gonna want all eyes on Episode VII, to be sure.
Compared to things on that scale, a tabletop RPG set in the Rebellion era poses about as much threat to the new films' bottom line as an R2-D2 keychain would.
We'll see all three books.
Sorry about the wall of text. For some reason the site won't let me make paragraphs. I have to admit that I am very hesitant about this game. I find the gameplay mechanics to be very unorthodox and I'm still on the fence about if I like the system or not. What really worries me is the description of the books we know are coming. "Each will be a standalone core rulebook, but will be fully compatible with the other two to form a single game system. You will be able to mix and match the elements you enjoy most to tailor your own Star Wars roleplaying experience!" If they would have said they were expansions I wouldn't have minded but there are a lot of buzz words I don't like. I'm worried that we will have to pick and choose rules that we keep or kick to make things run smoothly. If that is the case I won't be buying any book past Edge of the Empire and I would sell that book off. There is no point in keeping books for systems I have no interest in playing. I also don't like the idea of buying three core books because they will probably have a lot of carry over information from the previous books. I would rather have one core book that explains the main rules and gives a few basics that could be used in various settings. Then have more detailed information about the various settings in expansion books. If all the rules are in one book it means I will have to flip through less books to find the information I need. Sorry if this comes across as overly pessimistic but I really want this system to work and be a great game. I've just been burned in the past by other games that claimed conpatiblity. The unique dice don't help either. I have a large collection of dice that would be a major pain to use with this system. It doesn't help that the dice for this game are a little on the pricey side and I don't like using dice rolling apps.
TechnoGolem said:
Sorry about the wall of text. For some reason the site won't let me make paragraphs. I have to admit that I am very hesitant about this game. I find the gameplay mechanics to be very unorthodox and I'm still on the fence about if I like the system or not. What really worries me is the description of the books we know are coming. "Each will be a standalone core rulebook, but will be fully compatible with the other two to form a single game system. You will be able to mix and match the elements you enjoy most to tailor your own Star Wars roleplaying experience!" If they would have said they were expansions I wouldn't have minded but there are a lot of buzz words I don't like. I'm worried that we will have to pick and choose rules that we keep or kick to make things run smoothly. If that is the case I won't be buying any book past Edge of the Empire and I would sell that book off. There is no point in keeping books for systems I have no interest in playing. I also don't like the idea of buying three core books because they will probably have a lot of carry over information from the previous books. I would rather have one core book that explains the main rules and gives a few basics that could be used in various settings. Then have more detailed information about the various settings in expansion books. If all the rules are in one book it means I will have to flip through less books to find the information I need. Sorry if this comes across as overly pessimistic but I really want this system to work and be a great game. I've just been burned in the past by other games that claimed conpatiblity. The unique dice don't help either. I have a large collection of dice that would be a major pain to use with this system. It doesn't help that the dice for this game are a little on the pricey side and I don't like using dice rolling apps.
Then it's entirely your choice not to play, and use other SWRPG systems (Saga, WEG D6, etc) or use a different system (FATE, HERO) to play Star Wars.
But I don't see how comments like this add to the discussion. It's not like FFG is at a point where they can revise the game…
-WJL