His only ability reads:

R, Commit, discard X cards: After your opponent's ready phase, commit X non-character cards in their staging area.

His symbols: Death, Evil, and Order.

6 HS, 27 V

His handsize and vitality aren't all that great, but that ability... Not to mention those symbols contain EVERY top tier control foundation, and of course the dreaded Defender.

What do you think?

His ability is very good, but his handsize will hold him back, and the fact that if you suprise him with a tagalong, or establish a few ways on your board to negate his ability, he will suffer and eventually die.

He does offer some interesting possibilities tho.

I believe he will be a good character for order lock decks.

Unfortunately, his commit ability is overshadowed by Juni**. I know the activation point is different but honestly your opponent IS going to throw an attack at some point, and Juni's R only requires a commit, not the massive hand cost that Rashotep requires.

If your opponent has one Red Lotus out he is pretty much a blank character.

failed2k said:

3 years into the game and we've yet to see any sort of improvement on the "HS is best" philosophy. Seriously, can't they throw us a bone for once?

Sol Badguy said:

But Who actually plays SHADOW BLADE? *hinthint* maybe i'm alone since i'm a bad player

in b4 counter rant.

Admiral Ren said:

BLAH BLAH COUNTER WARS ARE NOT AN ARGUMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

But seriously if you don't play Red Lotus you're hosed.

Did I do it right?

The gap between 6 and 7 HS is pretty much monumental. The only 6 HSer to every make a splash have had draw abilities and outrageous VIT (vold, talbain, alex) and nothing has changed with that. Combined with the fact that he has only one ability as opposed to 2 like most characters and tag along is so prominent a card, hes useless in my eyes right now.

I think you're all looking at the wrong part of his statement. His ability requires him to DISCARD cards. Ergo, he will be more effective at 7+ handsize or with a way to draw a ton of cards easily.

This isn't a "7HS > 6HS" thread, jeebus.

how can you say one red lotus will nerf him?? off those symbols he gets so many answers its not even funny. his 6hs will hold him back but when you have a symbol spread like that? hmmm. to sexy in my eyes.

the thing you guys are MISSING. is that he and exp comb go together better than jenny and forrest gump. rashotep, discard 2 or 3 to bait THE LOTUS. then you can mop up right afterwards. you would have to be a dumb noob to dump your hand when staring that down. also once rashotep gets out his chesters, inhuman perceptions etc. he can effectively use his ability to bait lotus on THEIR turn, r with his chester and if they r with their chester it's fine B/C IT'S ON THEIR TURN. when you are doing things to your opponent on their turn you are doing things DOUBLY effective b/c now those cards you turned sideways are staying tapped for my next turn. and then rashotep is going to program malfunction and c boxing the mess out of you.

being able to do stuff on your opps turn IS the most powerful thing in the game. that's why we all hate chun li, exp comb etc. b/c it can nom you on your turn. srsly guys this dood is a monster.

any character that can run destiny, mac inhuman off death, all of orders crazy stuff, all of evils stuff, and has exp comb BUILT IN at the start of the game, has to be good. but i'm fine with this, don't play him, let me be the only one so i don't have to sweat diversity

Scott Gaines said:

The fact still remains that you had to commit him and discard cards from your hand just to commit a lotus THEN discard more cards for Experienced...this is not that easy to do with a 6 HS character..I think he is decent but not great. I am still going to try him since I try out every character

it's easy b/c of bigger they are, counter the assault, aquakinesis and flames of fame. 16 cards in your deck that draw at least 1. sounds good enough to me.

edit: blood runs true, so that's 20 cards in your deck that draw cards!!!!!!!!!

yeah it's def going to be harder for him to tap you out than it would be donovan. but srsly with all that draw, it's not too hard, drawing alot of cards over your handsize is never hard in ufs.

I'm in agreence with scooter here, remember if he plays forethoght on his first turn with two foundations then on your turn knocks down the foundations you played... you get the point its all just uphill.

Early on in the game however, any order character with a 7 HS can get a exp combatant into play and basicly mimic his effect, at least at the level you would need it, and still have other abilities on his character that help the cause and more likelyhood to get the rest. Promo gen for instance for the cost of like 4 points of vit gets +1 HS and 2 useful abilities, especally in foundation heavy order decks.

Quite honestly most order decks i play never get to the point where they need commit x foudnations in play, they usually are already committed and they just have to deal with a handful of them that they snuck through last turn.

Scott Gaines said:

My sentiments exactly.

Protoaddict said:

Yun-Seong, Rose, and Elena would like to have a word with you

Also...he has Death. Y'know who also has Death? Hugo. And Hugo's support does, too, I think...

And no, "early on any Order character w/7HS" can NOT imitate his effect. He drops Forethought and two foundations and can permalock the opponent out of the game with only his own ability. He can guarantee the opponent doesn't get set up to begin with by committing them out and failing their checks...then turning around and sucking it all up with iSpin. 'snot rocket science, y'know...it's what a lot of control-oriented Order characters do already. The difference is he doesn't need Experienced Combatant to do it.

Tagrineth said:

Every time I played YS he was forced to use draw tech to contend with the field, his ability lent itself to that with silent step and such, so he could get away with it. ive never seen a rose deck that made a splash on the tourney scene, and elena only won a teams event that i know of. Elena in effect also had draw tech as it would redraw on its turn if it played on yours, much like Talbain.

And the gap has widened. We have more 6 and lower characters now than we have in a while, this last release only had i think three 7hs characters, and they are probably getting more play than the rest of the field (chun li).

Protoaddict said:

Didn't a fire elena make T8 at worlds?

i dont recall that happening in 2008, maybe I'm wrong. All the same shes still a 6 HS character who basicly draws because she plays out of turn which still furthers my point.

an elena made top 16 at worlds. it was the only deck that didn't have addes and brt or curse broken and brt haha SAD.

but guys i'm not saying rashotep is going to win a major. i think he is a solid contender. i agree with fred b/c 7hs is all i have every played at majors, the only time i've played 6hs at a major is when i formed with promo ukyo to go down to 6hs on the kill turn

but srsly, 7hs is such an advantage b/c you go through your deck faster, all i'm saying is, is that rashotep has major potential to do it as well as 7hs b/c he slows the game down ALOT. but fred is right, the dif is huge, monstoruous right now. it's so sick.

Ah T16. Still quite good for not running all the crazy stuff.

Yea chain throw and absurd strength.

Nothing crazy there.

Protoaddict said:

Uh that is beside the point Elena made Top 16. That is the main point. Beside I said not running ALL the crazy stuff. never said she didn't run some.