Thx again for those who replied to my very first post. Another question came up. If a condition card doesn't specify which phase it can be played on, can it be played during any phase? Example, I trick my opponent into defending my 3 STR with his 4 STR, can I then attach something like R'hllor's Blessing on my character to make him a +5 with the draw? Sorry for the amateur questions, we're just a little overwhelmed.
One more Question, for now :)
Adaym said:
R'hllor's Blessing is an attachment card. The rules are very clear at attachment cards can only be played from your hand by paying the gold cost during your turn as active player during the Marshaling phase. You cannot "surprise" someone by playing an attachment card outside of the Marshaling phase.
As always in agot theres always an exception though right? Wouldnt a Dragons Egg played on an attachment allow Targ attachments to gain ambush and therefore could surprise people?
Yes - Dragon Egg (or any attachment that already has ambush) could allow attachmend to jump in and surprise people. However, the initial question was whether attachments could be "played" outside of the marshalling phase, and they cannot. Ambush (and other such effects) are "put into play" effects, which work differently from "played". Ktom's answer, as usual, is 100% correct.
Yes, there are always exceptions, but I don't think this player is playing out of Targaryen and that wasn't the question. R'hllor's Blessing is a Baratheon card, so it is ineligible for Dragon Egg's effect, and I'm sure they would have known how ambush works if they were playing Targaryen. Ktom was explaining the rule, as the player obviously didn't know it. If you want to get into it, there are also events like I'm You Writ Small that come into play and become attachments, as well as cards like Rusted Sword (actually the only non-ambush attachment I can think of) that can be put into play during player action windows.
Hey lighten up guys, Im fully aware tha Ktom was spot on as usual..
I was merely joking/trolling, Ktom used the word "cannot" which while technically true for Rhyllors Blessing etc isnt the case for other houses, i didnt want the OP to come across the one exception there might be and get confused.
We all know the importance of the word "Cannot" in agot dont we…
I think that was a great question, and related to one that comes up sometimes in my meta. Spending the winter stores, later in the game, and the player tries to grab Lord Eddards Chambers, for example. I think the easiest way to answer the question, besides the word Attachment, is the cards background. While it can be played as an attachment, the background clearly shows it to be a location, so it wouldn't be a valid card for the plot.
There was nothing in Ktom's response that was untrue, technically or otherwise. He said you cannot "play" an attachment outside of the marshalling phase, which is always true. Ambush and other similar effects put cards into play, which is not the same thing.
Totalgit said:
There are no attachments - in any House or anywhere in the game - that can be played on their own outside of the player's turn in the Marshalling phase by paying their gold cost and attaching them to a character. That is not how the attachment card-type works. That was the question the OP asked.
Your statement here, that what is "technically true for R'hllor's Blessing etc. isn't trhe case for other houses," implies that there are other attachments in other Houses that can be played from hand at any time by themselves just because they are (non-R'hllor's Blessing) attachments. And that is decidedly NOT true.
All of these other examples people have brought up - Dragon Egg, Ambush, Rusted Sword, etc. - involve a card effect that allows a card to be put into play by triggering that effect . They have nothing to do with "playing attachments," or even "putting attachments into play," really. They have to do with triggering that specific card effect or keyword. And they are not " exceptions" to the rule that you can only play attachments during your turn of the Marshaling phase.
So while all you say is true, they aren't really relevant to the OP because they introduce the additional element of a outside card effect that was not a part of the original question. It is essentially an overly advanced answer to a basic question.
Just sayin'. When the question is "Are the round things called 'circles'," we don't need to define pi to 14 decimal places.
Thats me on the naughty step.
Mmm, i like Pi's