Dragonstone Watchtower

Any Phase: Kneel Dragonstone Watchtower and name a card. If an opponent plays or reveals that card this phase, claim 1 power for your house. If that card is not played or revealed stand Dragonstone Watchtower at the end of the phase.

Much and More

Any Phase: Reveal the top 4 cards of each player's deck. Choose 1 revealed card owned by each player, and add it to its owner's hand. Shuffle all other cards back into their owners' decks.

The question is, if I kneel Dragonstone Watchtower and name a card and then play Much and More, will that potentially trigger Dragonstone Watchtower? Or will this not work because my Much and More opponent is doing the revealing or opponents cards instead of themselves?

I guess my question is wondering if the Hellholt Engineer can be used as a precedent for "opponent reveals" when Hellholt Engineer can only respond to the opponent doing the kneeling of the location?

Bomb said:

The Watchtower is very clear that the opponent must do the playing or revealing. When you play "Much and More," your opponent isn't doing anything.

Bomb said:

Thanks ktom. I think I had a brain fart because I knew this was how it worked for Grand Maester Pycelle and didn't think of it when I was thinking of using both these cards like that.

However the wording is more specific on Pycelle.

Pycelle's wording certainly is more preceise. The problem, really, is that the Watchtower is activated by both the opponent "playing" the card and the card "being revealed" by something the other player set in motion. It's hard to make an "either this or that" involving one active and one passive action on the part of the opponent.

ktom said:

This is probably a stupid question, but what exactly is the Watchtower checking for when it checks a card being revealed? Does it check for both the card to be revealed from opponent's hand/deck and check to see that opponent's card effect was what revealed it, or only the 2nd part of that? If I name a card with Watchtower and then my opponent plays and uses Satin, revealing said card off the top of my deck do I get a power?

If an opponent triggers an effect that results in the card being revealed, Watchtower kicks in.

The parallel to Hellholt Engineer only being kicked in when an opponent (actively) kneels a location for cost is that if a passive effect initiates and results in the card being revealed, Watchtower will not kick in - because the opponent did not make the "reveal" take place.