Since there's now a product page up for Edge of the Empire, it's worth noting that two additional items will be for sale when the core rulebook hits shelves in 2nd Quarter/Spring 2013.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=232&esem=2

First up is the expected dice pack, which looks to have the same dice assortment as the Beginner Box, and with a $15 price point, which is about what I figured.

But also due to be released at the same time is the GM Kit, which has not only a GM screen and a new adventure, but also advice on building your campaign and possibly even rules/guidelines for designing your own NPCs. It's got a $20 price point.

And we've got a confirmation on the price point of the core book. At $60, it might be a bit steep for some folks' taste, but it's about on par with their WH40K core books, and I'm sure the production values will be just as high.

Donovan Morningfire said:

It's certainly not cheap, but it's quite reasonable for a 450 page book (I've seen smaller books with this price point).

The $15 packs of dice (14 in the set) may be a sticking point, but hopefully we can find them a little cheaper at certain vendors (like with the WFRP dice).

It's nice to see some great support out of the gate, but I'm hoping we see a few other support books. From what I've heard, there are only a handful of species, so an official species codex would be cool.

Donovan Morningfire said:

The production values on the beginners set is great as well. One of our players was pissed at himself for spilling a drink on the charecter folio =D

Yikes, sound bad. Is it possible to cover the character folios with a standard sheet plastic cover? Or do they have non-standard dimensions?

Sketchpad said:

Oh, I'm sure there will be other supplements in between Edge of the Empire and the Rebelliion book slated for 2014.

There's a thread over in the Beta forum under General Discussion about what folks might like to see in the way of upcoming products, so at the very least FFG ha some consumer feedback as to what sort of supplements/sourcebooks folks might like to see.

joecor said:

joecor said:

There more like small magazines on good paper. You could take them apart and scan them to make ones for printing.

But I can not wait for this to come out. I am very excited.

This is great news.

By the way, did anyone notice that the dice packs come with it looks like 4 cardboard destiny pool tokens? That's a nice touch.

Ah ok, got it. Thanks TacticalBastrd

That Blasted Samophlange said:

Great catch there. They should mention it in the product description. Anything to better justify the $15 price point.

i'd love to see the dice pack released early to support the Beginner Box and Beta players. only having 1 red dice is a bit of a suck

It will be a big book and I completely believe it will be high quality. But $75 to just get started? Ouch. And it's just the book and minimal dice. No big box, tokens, cards, etc. I will of course still buy it, but I'm a game nut and have a professional career. I can't see myself at 20 years old being able to afford this. Perhaps the target audience is old fart gamers with less and less younglings wanting to get into RPGs?

Sturn said:

I was thinking the same thing. I am in my mid 20's with a decent career, and this is still a little costly for me. Luckly I have the dice from the box set, and I bought the $5 app. So that helps bring the cost down some. I am the GM of our group so I would like to buy the gm kit.

Sturn said:

I was thinking the same thing. I am in my mid 20's with a decent career, and this is still a little costly for me. Luckly I have the dice from the box set, and I bought the $5 app. So that helps bring the cost down some. I am the GM of our group so I would like to buy the gm kit.

15$ is a little steep for me for a bunch of dice. Hopefully it's n ot the only thing inside of the pack. I'll still be buying this but I do hope they bundle everything for a much cheaper price.

Some pretty good looking stuff. Art is looking awesome as well really sells Star Wars better then a lot of more recent endevours from other companies. Looking forward to it.

I am uncomfortable at the price of the dice. I heave a hard time justifying paying 15$ for a set of dice, especially since you really need 2 sets to cover the basic.

$15 for 14 dice and a few tokens isn't expensive. In fact that is on par or cheaper than some sets for D&D which sell for $8 - $15 depending on color and that only gets you 7 dice (d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20 and the 10s die for percentile).

$60 for the main book also is on par with inflation. Paperbacks used to be $4 back when AD&D 2nd ed came out. Now they are $8. The core rule books were $20 (1989), then $30 (2000) a decade ago, and now most are in the $40 - $60 range. The only exception would be the Savage Worlds core book (in Explorer's Edition size) which are $10, but they are trade paperbacks and don't have any extra licensing fees to cover in their costs.

Kids can afford this the same way they can buy the latest computer game or console game ($50 - $70 @). Under 16, parents buy it (via allowances or chores or gifts). 16 or over, they have part-time jobs and no living expenses (other than maybe a car depending on parents).

That Blasted Samophlange said:

Great catch! And definitely a great idea.

I'll bet the book costs $40 on miniature market and cool stuff inc… and that the dice cost $10. So, not too bad, really (especially if you buy enough stuff to qualify for free S/H).

All we need now is a monthly Adventure Path…

Regarding the price points, a couple factors to keep in mind before you start accusing FFG of being money-grubbing fiends.

Point the First. licensing costs. LucasFilm requires a certain amount of money in exchange for letting other companies use the Star Wars brand. That alone is going to result in a price hike on any product they make, be it RPGS, tactical minis (X-Wing), or card games. And given the general high quality production values that FFG generally has on their products (which again costs money), a $60 price tag for a 450+ page core book isn't really all that unreasonable in today's market.

Point the Second, custom dice are not cheap. By going the route of using custom dice icons for their Star Wars system as opposed to the more readily available dice facings, that's going to incur extra costs. And as FFG is a company who needs to make a profit to continue producing games, part of that cost gets passed on to us the consumer. While I'm sure FFG is getting some kind of high volume discount, it's not enough of one to justify pricing the dice any lower than what they're currently priced.

The guys at the Order 66 podcast ran into this when getting their "chance cubes" for GenCon, having to ultimately settle on a d6 with the D20 Radio logo rather than a d20 as they would have been charged for each face on the die, and not just the custom one. Given the number of dice they were looking at getting, they opted for a six-sided die instead of a twenty-sided die.

I come from Warhammer 3. For me, having everything I need to play with my group of friends in a single book, even if it is 60 bucks, it is a blessing to my pocket.

I don't mind paying $60 for book that's basically an all-in-one product. Comparing it to D&D, to have everything you need to run costs around $90 (and that's only if the PHB, DMG and MM are $30/ea). The dice aren't so bad either, as signature dice around here sell for around $1/ea. At 400+ pages, I'm just hoping that the game has some great options for the players and GM. I guess, in the long run, I want my money's worth if I'm buying it

Kallabecca said:

This. Kids and young adults will do what they must in order to afford the latest video game. Considering that there is a GM and players, it wouldn't be out of line for the group to split the cost and share the book. If you were to compare the "money" to "hours of fun" ratio to that of a videogame, I would suspect the RPG is capable of meeting or beating most triple-A video games on the market. While I would like the price to be lower (who wouldn't?), my biggest gripe with the book is that it isn't out yet =D

bobfrankly said:

You and me both buddy!