Push the Limit & granted actions

By kraedin, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Push the Limit reads: Once per round, after you perform an action, you may perform one free action shown in your action bar. Then receive 1 stress token.

Is there any reason you couldn't use this after a granted action? For example, could an Tycho Celchu use Push the Limit to take 1 free action after the action granted by Lando Calrissian's special ability?

You are absolutely correct. Which means you could also use it after Turr Phennir's pilot ability that allows you to perform a free barrel roll or boost meaning he could potentially take 3 actions in one turn.

Or after an action granted by an ability such as Squad Leader.

Yes, he certainly can, however I point out that it does say once per round, so they can only do PTL if they haven't used PTL yet this turn (for example, after their own action)

godofcheese said:

Yes, he certainly can, however I point out that it does say once per round, so they can only do PTL if they haven't used PTL yet this turn (for example, after their own action)

Which was clever of them. Otherwise Tycho would be executing every single one of his actions every round he was allowed to take actions.

Thread necro power active! :blink:

I think this is right, but it's late but I'm in a squad building mind-set, and I think this works out stress-free with three actions for Tycho:

Lando take a green manoeuvre at PS7 with Tycho at range 1 after the move is made. Tycho takes free action from Lando's ability. Tycho then activates PtL and takes second action plus a stress token for PtL. Tycho then takes his turn at PS8, takes a green manoeuvre, clears the one stress from the PtL and then takes his (now third) action as normal after his move. Net result: 3 actions for Tycho with no added stress for the turn.

Correct?

(and yes, not that it matters if Tycho pools the stress, but I like to keep him as clean as possible in case I need that K-turn)

Yes, that theoretically works.
Similarly, someone with Adv. Sensors and PTL gets 2 actions with self-clearing stress.

Hilariously, in your example, using a lvl 9 pilot with Squad Leader as well would bump Tycho up to 4 actions!

Only issue is you cannot perform the same action twice in the same round, even if its a "Free" Action. However if another ship passes a focus or triggers another Ability that gives you Focus or another Token in some way that is allowed.

And no you can only use PTL Once per Round. So you could not use it on the Free action and then use it again later.

Edited by KovuTalli

And no you can only use PTL Once per Round. So you could not use it on the Free action and then use it again later.

This wasn't confused by anyone.

  1. Lando performs Green Maneuver
  2. Lando passes free action to Tycho
  3. Tycho uses PTL to do 2 actions instead
  4. Tycho gains a stress
  5. Tycho performs Green Maneuver
  6. Tycho clears his stress
  7. Tycho performs a third action (his normal one)
  8. *Wedge moves
  9. *Wedge uses Squad Leader on Tycho
  10. *Tycho performs a 4th action

Steps 8, 9,and 10 were added by my suggestion. Interestingly, Tycho doesn't need to perform green maneuvers to do this chain, but literally any other level 7 or 8 pilot can do this in the same manner, assuming they have enough actions to perform.

And then there's the Adv Sensors variant:

  1. Ibtisam is about to reveal her maneuvering dial.
  2. Ibtisam uses Adv. Sensors to take her action before movement.
  3. Ibtisam uses PTL to do 2 actions instead
  4. Ibtisam receives a stress
  5. Ibtisam reveals her maneuvering dial, and performs a green action
  6. Ibtisam removes her stress
  7. Lando does a green maneuver and gives her a 3rd action.
  8. Wedge uses Squad Leader, and gives her a 4th action.
Edited by DraconPyrothayan

Ibtisam would have trouble with the 4th action as B-Wings only have 3 actions on their action bar. Otherwise, looks good.

Eh, if your going to all this trouble your probably giving her an engine upgrade too.

Fair enough. It's also probably worth pointing out that the combo is now 113 points (only 110 without the engine upgrade...). Granted the Tycho/Lando/Wedge combo is also over cost, but not by quite as much at 104 points.

Fair enough. It's also probably worth pointing out that the combo is now 113 points (only 110 without the engine upgrade...). Granted the Tycho/Lando/Wedge combo is also over cost, but not by quite as much at 104 points.

Never let the costs stand in the way of SCIENCE!!!

And, it'll probably be legal in "epic play" as it's fair to assume that we'll get at least 13 more points to play around with :). Still a ton of points to sink into giving one ship 4 actions... but fun.

Epic Play: Build squads with no more than "110.327" points and expand playing surface to "4 feet 8 7/12 cm" x "3.pi feet" :D

Edited by Forgottenlore

My Mistake, I thought I saw someone asking if you could PTL on a free action that you are given and then again for your own action.

Thanks guys. I kind of thought of the 4th action route for that Tycho example, but by then it was way too late and I wasn't thinking clearly to start with.

Beyond that, we often play 150pt games for fun in our group. It buggers up your tournament training for sure, but it's amusing to watch a mirror match with 150 points of TIEs trying to hit each other for hours on end.