ok after all units in battle strike the battle is over right?

so what happens in regards to red 2s text

red 2 is in battle all units strike last unit that strikes causes enough damage that objective is destroyed… what happens

red 2 is in battle before all units strike enough damage is take by objective to destroy it…. what happens.

That's a tough one. For a concrete answer, you would need to send an email to FFG and hope it's not a "wait for the FAQ" response. My guess, though… if everyone has been focused to strike, I think you could trigger Red 2's response to ready it for another engagement.

I could be completely off the mark, but in the given situation, that's how it should work IMHO.

If you have resolved strikes with all your units (Red 2 included) and the objective is destroyed during the Resolve Strikes step you may then immediately use the ability on Red 2 to remove a focus token (as a reaction to the objective being destroyed). The unit is still participating so it then needs to strike again even though there is no longer an objective around.

If the objective is destroyed by unopposed damage bonus Red 2 removes 1 focus and is then able to target a new objective (if ready).

That's how I read the rules in any case. If you submit a rules question and get an answer please share the info here

gruntl said:

I was iffy on the second part, but thinking about it, it seems right. All strkes take place before you check for unopposed damage, so if the unopposed damage is the one that puts it over the top, Red Two could remove its focus token. And really, I'd say it couldn't focus again in that engagement (targeting one of the units involved), since that part of the phase has passed. It would have to be used against another objective.

ok so to clarify :

battle ends as soon as last unit strikes.

only if objective is destroyed as the result of the last strike in battle does red 2 get to participate in another battle otherwise he gets a second strike in the current battle.

No, the engagement ends after the "Reward Unopposed" step.

Red 2 only gets to participate in another battle if the objective is destroyed after the Resolve Strikes step. For example, the objective could be destroyed by the unopposed damage bonus, or by a Rebel Assault after the engagement has ended.

Also note that Red 2 will remove a focus token if one of the LS player's objectives are destroyed. The text does not specify that is has to be an opposing or DS objective.

If there are surviving enemy units in the engagement, Red 2 must focus to strike. If, however, you destroyed it unopposed (either by your opponent declaring no defenders or by destroying them before the objective left play), then the reaction would take place after the engagement ends. That's direct from Nate French via Facebook.

dbmeboy said:

Affirmative. Once you reach the "check for surviving units and reward unopposed bonus" step, you're past the point of being able to focus a unit to strike. Before then (assuming Red Two is taking part in the engagement), it would be obligated to focus to strike.

Xenu's Paradox said:

Xenu, is there any way you could quote exactly what Nate French said, and what it was he responded to? There's actually a problem with the way you worded the ruling that may make it contrary to the rules as they are written.

Let me explain…

If you reach the unopposed bonus step, and damage from unopposed bonus destroyed the objective, Red Two's reaction can be triggered to allow it to remove its focus token, and there is actually no choice about it, it is unable to focus to strike again during that engagement. However, if during the engagement the objective is destroyed by anything other than the unopposed damage bonus, REGARDLESS of whether or not it was opposed, Red Two's reaction may be triggered, and if it is, Red Two MUST focus to strike, even if there are no defending units and no objective.

Here's why:

Page 20

5. Resolve Strikes

Players continue to alternate, focusing a unit and resolving its strike, until no participating ready unit remains .

Now, if you go by the engagement resolution timing diagram on page 30, you'll notice that "repeat if any participating units are still ready" brings you back to having to resolve strikes. If ANYTHING destroys the objective before that point in the diagram, if you chose to resolve Red Two's reaction ability, it would then become a ready participating unit (again, assuming it was participating in the engagement), and it would be FORCED to focus to strike again, even if there were no defenders.

So I think the key is that Red Two does not have to focus to strike again if unopposed damage destroyed the objective. At that point, it's too late to strike. Prior to that, it has to strike again…

*edit*

UNLESS the clause on page 23 (If the engaged objective was destroyed before the reward unopposed step, there is no unopposed bonus) actually means that you simply skip that entire step altogether, effectively ending the engagement as soon as there are no surviving defenders and all attacking units have focused to strike. If what you wrote is verbatim from Nate, that must be the case.

At any rate, thanks for sharing the response, Xenu. And I hope we get a FAQ section soon. There are quite a few significant rules issues that need to be resolved.

Yeah, sorry, that should have been worded better.

The relevant bit from Facebook:

"He must strike again during that engagement even if the objective and all enemy units are destroyed. However, if the objective is destroyed as unopposed (after the strike step), Red Two would leave the engagement unfocused."

Xenu's Paradox said:

Thank you so much for the response. I'm a little OCD (in case you couldn't tell already), and I was still obsessing over this conundrum. That means you still go through step 6 of resolving an engagement even if the engaged objective is destroyed. There just is no unopposed bonus. That's what I hoped Nate meant.

I'm so relieved. The timing diagram does not need to be radically altered. The space-time continuum is no longer threatened.