The Vaith timing question

By azrael9, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

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Hi,

I have a timing question to "The Vaith": Response: After a player declares a challenge against you, kneel 1 influence to choose 1 character controlled by that player. That character loses an icon of your choice until the end of the phase.

If my opponent is declaring a challenge against me, can I remove an Icon from one of his characters before or after he declares and kneels the attackers for this challenge?

As far as I understood from the FAQ the second Framework action window of the challenge phase has two "Events" inside:

1. active Player declares challenge type and opponent
2. active player kneels attacking characters
And for each event the steps 1-3 of the Framework Action Window is executed before the steps 4 - 6 are executed. If this is correct "The Vaith" would not allow me to remove an icon before my opponent is declaring his attackers.
Is this correct?
Greets
Tom
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Azrael1 said:

Hi,

I have a timing question to "The Vaith": Response: After a player declares a challenge against you, kneel 1 influence to choose 1 character controlled by that player. That character loses an icon of your choice until the end of the phase.

If my opponent is declaring a challenge against me, can I remove an Icon from one of his characters before or after he declares and kneels the attackers for this challenge?

As far as I understood from the FAQ the second Framework action window of the challenge phase has two "Events" inside:

1. active Player declares challenge type and opponent
2. active player kneels attacking characters
And for each event the steps 1-3 of the Framework Action Window is executed before the steps 4 - 6 are executed. If this is correct "The Vaith" would not allow me to remove an icon before my opponent is declaring his attackers.
Is this correct?
Greets
Tom

Entirely correct.

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Ughhh …. This was not the answer I was hoping to hear :)

This means my opponent can attack with any character in his first challenge and I cannot prevent this with The Vaith :(

So the card is not that usefull as I thought.

But good to know that I understood the rules correctly :)

Greets

Tom

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Azrael1 said:

Ughhh …. This was not the answer I was hoping to hear :)

This means my opponent can attack with any character in his first challenge and I cannot prevent this with The Vaith :(

So the card is not that usefull as I thought.

But good to know that I understood the rules correctly :)

Greets

Tom

Hehe. At least you can mitigate the other challenge types they may initiate or the challenge types they can defend when it's your turn to attack. :-)