freebird285 said:

This an agreeable point, and if you know the 'fluff' you'll see some designs just seem to endure for a very long time. The USAF still has the B-52, the Marine Corps the Cobra, for example. That aside, I pretty much dislike every single one of those designs until the Eta Actis 2. I love the LAAT/i Gunship, but it's not spaceworthy ship, aside from a rarely used variant, they're all airspeeders. So, I guess if FFG thinks it's a marketable thing, they'll produce them, but I doubt I'll spend any money on 95* of what the Prequels have to offer.

The flaw in my original point about endurance, however, is that these ships clearly did not…they were replaced by the one's we see now. The N1 Naboo Starfighter was not a largely produced model, for example, as it was pretty much exclusively for Naboo. There may have been a few flown during the Rebellion Era, about the same way certain nations still utilize much older MiGs: Because they can't afford anything better. The only other 'fighter' the Rebellion has in it's Pre-Yavin arsenal is the Z-95 and the R-41, and I can guarantee that horrible looking thing won't make me reach for my wallet. It's not even that recognizable for avid players of the game it was designed for. The Z-95 may see the light of day, although I don't really see a need for it, either.

You have to consider how these things will fit into the mechanics of the game, as Norsehound so profoundly mentioned earlier. I just don't see how you can squeeze something like an N-1 into the game and keep it both competitive and keep it's stats 'honest'. It couldn't have better stats than a TIE Fighter or A-Wing, which means it's Hull would be at a 1 or 2, which means anything with a higher pilot skill is going to one-shot it. Sure it'd be cheap, but then you could swarm them…meaning you'll see 10 of them on a table, and they'll suddenly become the staple unit, instead of a rare one-off for filler. It'd have, what, maybe 1 attack at best? A lot of these ships would have to be designed at such margins they'd either be useless, or cheesey.

Hallo,

IT is Nice to talk about ships and FFG wil make more if they can.

The big cuestion is did they think it would sell this good and does the license they have let them do more stuff.

I think they have a x-wing license so that would only be for ships in the same computer game.

If you look at other wargames, license Lets say star trek you wil see that a companie that does get a license wil get it only for one periode so for star trek IT would be only TOS or DS9 or TNG if you would like to get them al IT will cost too much to start whit and a big gamble if the game does not sell…..

My 2cent, let the ship talk go on:)

Thanks One

Duplicate post.

oneofmany said:

This is not, at all, the same license as the one for the computer game, which was done natively by LucasGames, anyways. It is a license to produce physical games with the Star Wars license, also covering the RPG and Card game, and whatever else FFG may be planning. The gaming license has never worked how you describe it under any example, and are not issued in that limited a scope. The only major restrictions FFG probably has would be in producing other merchandise, such as electronic games, apparel, accessories that do not support the primary product. Which is why we probably won't see things like pins and patches as League rewards, unless they are branded specifically for the product. FFG's license likely permits it to utilize any characters or trademarked creations from the fiction to develop and design this game, as well as create new content, although recent licensing tendencies require that any new content must be approved by LucasArts' Continuity Department.

As a note, the new adventure "Long Arm of the Hutt" for the EoE beginner's game included images and stats for ships that appeared in Star Wars: Galaxies. We could 3 faction up things with a Hutt/Smuggler faction in the mix and use some of the ships from that game as well.

Hallo,

@CaptainRook

Quote the gaming license has never worked how you describe it under any example, and are not issued in that limited a scope. Quote

Funny Mongoos has a star trek TOS game at this point and have States them self that the license they have only let them do only TOS ships so no other era ships for that game, yes they can make new ones but only that era.

I am not saying FFG has the same problem but it is some thing to think about…

Thanks One

oneofmany said:

Capt Rook is correct.

The Mongoose license is a one of a kind case in Star Trek Licensing. The reason it is only for TOS is because it is a subsidiary license of Amarillo Design Bureau's license for Star Fleet Battles. The ADB license dates back to the 1970's (even before Star Trek The Motionless Picture) and has been around all these years as a completely separate license from other Star Trek property licenses, due to the way it was originally set up. Normal Paramount licensing works exactly as CaptRook states…I worked for and with several companies that had licenses for Trek merchandise in the 90's and none of the licenses work in the manner you described.

Jim

Well since everyone is talking about what new ships they could add, what about new abilities for ships. Some things ive been thinking about are possible ways to allow people to reroll agility die.

I remeber having chaff/flares in x-wing alliance that could be used as countermeasures against enemy ships. Maybe chaff would be similar to mines as you would place it down behind you before moving and anyone within range 1 of it would use 1 less attack die that turn to simulate it messing with their targeting systems. Then we could have flares or some sort of action token where you can spend it to reroll your agility die. We could also have tractor beams similar to target locks and have whaichever ship its targeted on all hard turn maneuvers become red actions could balance it by having it only affect ships in your firing arc, and if they ever get out of your firing arc it gets removed automatically.

What do you guys think?

I was talking about Star Wars…which has always divided their gaming license into two branches: Tabletop and Video Games. Most of the time, their Video Games are produced in house and if not, contracted to someone else, not usually licensed. That only typically happens when they're producing multiple things simultaneously. I wasn't talking about how other companies handle their brands. Not everyone does the same thing, that being said, typically, a company doesn't want a license if another one has the same privileges offered to it and usually the proprietor of the license doesn't want that, either. This is not an X-Wing vs TIE Fighter 'license', anyways, so your entire point is based on a major fallacy, with a few more layered on top of it. You can go to the 'Licenses' section of the Star Wars website just as easily as I can.

The Mongoose License is such an anamoly, that it's well known…being well-known does not mean it's the template for every license.

I've heard that this will be in the next release:

peteparkerh said:

I've heard that this will be in the next release:

Seems legit. Maybe all the first wave Millenium Falcons turned out like that at the factory and that is the real reason the wave is delayed?

I love this game and I know theres a lot of ships to choose from, and personally I like almost all of them. But what I´d REALLY REALLY but REALLY want this game to have is more armies. Droid Army, Nemoidian Army, I dont know, theres a lot of armys to choose from! Fluff-wise it can be explained somewhat (maybe very old x-wings fighting desperatelly against the new droid fighters; the last remnants of The Empire, decades later, still protecting secret bases against incoming sith ships, I dont care!). And I think that would make this game REALLY REALLY COOL.

Just my 2 cents.

jkrax said:

You know the Empire wins, right?

CaptainRook said:

Mmmm not sure…. if the complete destruction of the Death Star and the killing of its leaders can be taken as a win situation… then maybe they won

jkrax said:

At the end of the Legacy comics, the Empire is the dominant force in the Galaxy, although…actually they're kinda the good guys, with all the cool characters and awesome gear. The Crimson Gaurd are all Force-using Knights(Not Jedi), and the dynasty was begun by Jagged Fel(Soontir Fel's son) and Jaina Solo(Luke and Leia's daughter) The Empire never really collapsed, and eventually came back stronger than ever. I wasn't keen on it at first, but it really turned out to be quite cool.

CaptainRook said:

you sure about that incestous little bit?

I didnt knew empire wins in the end… probably because Im no big fan of Star Wars, just regular spaceship combat fan And I saw only the movies and played some games… anyway, some more armies would ROCK!

Denied said:

I imagine his fingers just had a mind of their own on that one, after all he did correctly name her Jaina SOLO. She is Han and Leia's daughter.

Denied said:

Oops…not sure how that happened…and now I cant edit it.

There are at least two different Turbo Laser turrets I'd rather see than any particular ships.