91-99 Daemonhost: the Psyker must immediately pass a Very hard (-30) WP test or be possessed by a Daemon and become a Daemonhost. Creat an Unbound Daemonhost (...) that will immediately attack. Only destruction of the Daemonhost will free the Psyker (thought he may die anyway if his ody is destroyed in the process). If the Psyker does somehow manage to survive this result, he automatically gains 4d10 Corruption Points

Question: this mean Psyker gains 4d10 CP only if he doesn't pass WP test, but survive destruction of Daemonhost?

so when he pass WP test then nothing happens?

thnx for answer

Sivar

Strictly by the wording, he gets the corruption points for rolling the peril result. Managing the WP roll is another way of "surviving this result".

Cifer said:

Or, one could read it as surviving the possession. The wording on that last sentence stresses "somehow manage to survive this result." The result is hardly difficult to survive unless of course you fail the initial WP test. Only once the possession happens are things actually difficult.

Do they mean "result" as in the roll of the die or the "result" of failing the WP roll and becoming a daemonhost?

The sentence is somewhat awkward, but I believe it is meant that the psyker gains the cp after the demon is cast & his pc is still alive.

Technically, he would gain them as soon as the daemon is possessing him, but as soon as this is happening (the daemon attacks at once!) all hell is breaking loose. The the cp is the last of the problems, and since the actuall outcome likely is that the pc will kill the daemon host by destroying it´s body, the time for rolling the cp is pretty wasted...

In the world where players get CPs even if spotted a weak presence of Warp taking NO CPs after fight with deamon in his mind/body (succesfull or not) is strange for me.

But this sentence is not clear so i ask.

on another forum my friend asked the same question, and:

http://darkreign40k.com/forum/index.php?topic=1558.msg21605#msg21605

so we are really confused now :]

>>Technically, he would gain them as soon as the daemon is possessing him, but as soon as this is happening (the daemon attacks at once!) all hell is breaking loose. The the cp is the last of the problems, and since the actuall outcome likely is that the pc will kill the daemon host by destroying it´s body, the time for rolling the cp is pretty wasted...<<

This is how I would read it. The PC feels something dark trying to enter his body and struggles to fight it off. If he succeeds he suffers no other ill effects aside from a terribly headache and nightmares for a week. If he fails he gains 4d10 corruption points, becomes a demon host and his friends start doing the pee pee dance. Should they somehow destroy the demon without destroying the PC's body (knowing most players this is highly unlikely) then the PC is free but still retains those corruption points - his soul is irrevocably tainted.

Too forgiving, IMO. Although I'm inclined to agree that the rules do intend that the CPs are only applied if the psyker is possessed and manages to survive the explusion process, I am personally inclined to say that passing the WP test saves the psyker from possession but not from the horror and inevitable corruption of being so directly assaulted by a minion of the Warp.

Players in my campaigns will get 4D10 CPs even if they pass the WP test.

That said, my players tend to consider both IPs and CPs a badge of honour and love getting them. If your players aspire to stave off the effects of the Dark Millennium then you might want to be more forgiving.

R.

"Forgiveness" has nothing to do with it. If Chaos could have conquored the Imperium by failing to influence it, Chaos would have conquored the Imperium a long, long time ago. I have to go with the interpretation that succeeding at the Willpower roll staves off the CP.

"Forgiveness" has nothing to do with it. If Chaos could have conquored the Imperium by failing to influence it, Chaos would have conquored the Imperium a long, long time ago. I have to go with the interpretation that succeeding at the Willpower roll staves off the CP.

It's not about conquering the Imperium by failing to influence it but by being kicked out of the open mental door of the psyker at the very last second. Considering even being in the presence of a Daemon can grant corruption, having a direct mind-to-mind connection and near-possession doesn't sound exactly healthy to me.

Or, one could read it as surviving the possession. The wording on that last sentence stresses "somehow manage to survive this result." The result is hardly difficult to survive unless of course you fail the initial WP test. Only once the possession happens are things actually difficult.

It's pretty difficult to make that -30 WP test (about 30% at best, either through massive WP enhancements or Schola Progenium descent), which is part of the result.

Cifer said:

My point is that unless you wrote the rules you cannot claim to know the exact meaning. The bottom line is that sentence refers to a single result. Which result? There are two die rolls. Which result do they mean, because that answer changes everything.