FAQ 3.4

By Ratatoskr, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

I just posted this on another post, but oh well.

IMO, restricting and banning cards is more from the "it's not doing what we designed it to do" perspective. The Furies? Everyone is including them? Wasn't our intent, restrict 'em. TftE? One card starting hands? Wasn't our intent. Restrict it. TMP? Strongest agenda in the game? Being over-represented? Restrict it. I haven't liked the direction they've gone in the past with the FAQs, but I really have to applaud their latest management of the game. They are taking a serious look at the competitive environment. They're managing the game to what they want it to be and what they designed it to be. You can grade the FAQ incomplete based on the lack of fixes with regards to rules holes and trait mispelling, but this is exactly the kind of FAQ I'd expect before a tournament.

Does it clarify the card pool? Yes.

Does it give some due clarifications? Yes.

Does it destroy any current NON-GIMMICK builds? I'd say no, but need some help on that one.

Does it make the scoring system more intuitive? Yes.

Does it help people going to the tournament prepare for the tournament? Yes.

Is it timely? I don't really know. I'm not going to the tourney.

What key things would be missing from this FAQ for someone getting ready for Worlds? And keep in mind, I don't think drastically altering the environment a month out would be a positive pre-tournament FAQ. But obviously opinions can differ on that.

Well, English it´s not my native language ……but i believe this don´t mind because i´m sure that all people understand me, and i didn´t use any forbidden word to insult or anyone.

I´m a person that like to give my opinion over the cards, because this it´s a forum.

In my opinion restrc Threat f. th East, because a Player create a combination of 5 cards to do a combo it´s very very poor, because in this game there are more combinations or several cards that there weren´t restricted. That combination of 5 cards have 2 cards that can be cancel, but if a loser write to FFg because he cryes "oooohhh FFg a player wins me because he use 5 cards to quit all my hand except one card!!", if i were FFg i would said to that player that make another deck and put in that deck more papershield or nightmares. XD (This combination it´s not efficient 100%)

Greyscale it´s very dangerous because a friend of mine whith a maester deck, burn 4-5 characters per turn!!!. Greyscale not will be restricted, but believe, it´s better that was only H. Baratheon or Targaryen to avoid that a burn attachment would be at the hands of all people.

Much and more would be restricted because it´s a card that help to do a combination more efficient, but people "don´t worry!!!" , it´s sure that someone will be write crying cards to FFG for this.

Orion_kurnous meet as "onion"

orion_kurnous said:

In my opinion restrc Threat f. th East, because a Player create a combination of 5 cards to do a combo it´s very very poor, because in this game there are more combinations or several cards that there weren´t restricted. That combination of 5 cards have 2 cards that can be cancel, but if a loser write to FFg because he cryes "oooohhh FFg a player wins me because he use 5 cards to quit all my hand except one card!!", if i were FFg i would said to that player that make another deck and put in that deck more papershield or nightmares. XD (This combination it´s not efficient 100%)

Which combinations are 100% efficient? They all take a deck building effort and the person who used it had created their deck in such a way that it was apparently easy to pull off quite often. FFG stated that they did not want such a round 1 debilitating combo to be easy to pull off and clearly it was that easy.

This combination in particular has the 3 accessible plots at their disposal, so the only thing the player needs are 2 Maesters to pay for 2 Citadel Law(or 1 Bran Stark and 1 Maester with Citadel Law). There are ways they can get Citadel Politics faster as well. One way is to use Much and More. Another way is when they are using Counting Favors to acquire the rest of your pieces. They can also grab a Maester using At the Gates if that is all that is missing to finish the combo. They already have gone through a nice chunk of their deck to achieve the combo they need to get the opponent down to 1 card by the end of the plot phase.

It's so unlikely that the combo is not going to work.

3x Bran Stark
3x Citadel Law
3x Much and More
The Maester's Path

1x of each and every chain attachment to attach to TMP because it reduces the hell out of your deck size.
3x Apprentice Collar(because it can be placed on a character during setup)

1x Old Nan so even she can be used to give someone the Maester trait.

Lots of cheap Maester characters.

If you don't get Citadel Law during your first setup, you mulligan to try and get it. If you don't get it again, then there's a good chance you've got Bran Stark out at least. With him, you reveal counting favors. At this point, if you don't have Citadel Law, you probably at least have 1 or 2 copies of Much and More. With this you can try and fish out Citadel Politics.

So, the reason it is restricted is because they want to remove the deck thinning capability of The Maester's Path.

Of course you might have already known this, but it may be possible I completely misunderstood your post.

orion_kurnous said:

Greyscale it´s very dangerous because a friend of mine whith a maester deck, burn 4-5 characters per turn!!!. Greyscale not will be restricted, but believe, it´s better that was only H. Baratheon or Targaryen to avoid that a burn attachment would be at the hands of all people.

How might it be different than Threat from the North turns with the chain attachments that help facilitate burn?

@Orion:

I was trying to hold back and not write in this post, but I will not tolerate being called loser and crier. I wrote to FFG after the tournament that was hold in Spain and that was won by Matamagos because I saw a real danger for the game in his combo deck. Several of his opponents got quite angry and frustrated because of starting the game with only one card and even considered quitting the game altogether. In fact, both of them have started selling part of their collection.

I did play against him and lost to his combo. But if you do not know the facts, please shut your mouth instead of filling the boards with nonsense. When I built my deck I did take into consideration that I could play against Matamagos and I did include in my deck 3 copies of Paper shield and 3 copies of TLS. So my deck was prepared to face him. I still lost the game, but that was the game I enjoyed the most of all the tournament, as you could have known if you had spent 5 minutes reading my comments on the Spanish boards. I love his deck and I regularly exchange emails with him with evil ideas for the future. So being defeated by him and his deck was a great experience (even more if we take into account that we were both already classified for top 16).

The deck creates a NPE for the average player, and to every new player in particular. It is very harsh to play with one card and facing a second turn Valar to left you without everything, even more if you are starting in this game and you have to face this deck in first round. I just wrot to FFG to inform about the existence of this deck and its efficiency at comboing his opponent.

@Everyone else:

This guy is some sort of a troll. He's been banned from the two Spanish boards and has created new profiles to continue with his activity. He's had arguments with lots of players in Madrid, including myself when he tried to cheat my girlfriend in a game and got angry when I pointed he was doing things wrong on purpose.

I hate it when a player wins me.

tarkin84 said:

@Orion:

I was trying to hold back and not write in this post, but I will not tolerate being called loser and crier. I wrote to FFG after the tournament that was hold in Spain and that was won by Matamagos because I saw a real danger for the game in his combo deck. Several of his opponents got quite angry and frustrated because of starting the game with only one card and even considered quitting the game altogether. In fact, both of them have started selling part of their collection.

I did play against him and lost to his combo. But if you do not know the facts, please shut your mouth instead of filling the boards with nonsense. When I built my deck I did take into consideration that I could play against Matamagos and I did include in my deck 3 copies of Paper shield and 3 copies of TLS. So my deck was prepared to face him. I still lost the game, but that was the game I enjoyed the most of all the tournament, as you could have known if you had spent 5 minutes reading my comments on the Spanish boards. I love his deck and I regularly exchange emails with him with evil ideas for the future. So being defeated by him and his deck was a great experience (even more if we take into account that we were both already classified for top 16).

The deck creates a NPE for the average player, and to every new player in particular. It is very harsh to play with one card and facing a second turn Valar to left you without everything, even more if you are starting in this game and you have to face this deck in first round. I just wrot to FFG to inform about the existence of this deck and its efficiency at comboing his opponent.

@Everyone else:

This guy is some sort of a troll. He's been banned from the two Spanish boards and has created new profiles to continue with his activity. He's had arguments with lots of players in Madrid, including myself when he tried to cheat my girlfriend in a game and got angry when I pointed he was doing things wrong on purpose.

This guy its a person who forms part of a group of person that are dedicated in forums spanish to insult people that not are acording to theirs opinions or create forums in which they threaten whith banned all people that do not have the same opinion of a card, He is confused whith a friend of mine, i read his post in a spanish forum in which they said that wrote for this combo, and is public, in their forum people who do that are called cryer, for all his friends, He and his friends are dedicated to do several nicks and insult a friend of mine, it´s for that i believe my friend made a formal complais for pursuit.

Im very sad why people are dedicated to insult people who put an opinion of a card, if a card its over they said you are cryier, you are banned, Many people have troubles with that group of person because they believe that there is only one thing in theirs lives (thrones), i prefer sex.

I talk whit my friend, and another player, the player who played vs your girlfriend, i remember that the judge of the tournament, put you a warning because when you girlfriend after valar went to save her maester, you said "euron" because euron have 2 counters, and she save euron, then you begin to said anothers things, sufle the deck of your girlfriend……, and you no was judge, only a superprotective boyfriend, and my friend call the judge for you, against you, because in a game, if you see something wrong you must call the judge, not distracting the person who playing versus your girlfriend, because its a tournament, and if you remember, the judge give to my friend the option to repeat the game, but he declined that because he said that your girlfriend won, he only would liked that you shut your mouth in a ¡¡TOURNAMENT!!.

My friend are very very tired, that you and other spanish bad players pursuit him for only put and opinion, but now, you can said anything of a card because you are the great TARKINNN !!! whoooooaaaaa, GREAT TARKINNN!!! (laugh before please!!!)

In any moment i refer you, but you only came to insult me, because you are demostrating to all forum that you are very very younger and poor person.

And please, the nex time tell the thruth and don t insult people, if you like said something to a person saidly private, dont acting how a troll.

i wish i knew how to make upside down exclamation points.

alt 0161 to do it with ascii code (tyvm old school mmos)

-Istaril said:

Onion - your posts have consistently baffled me… grammatically, spelling-wise and content-wise - but I'll bite.

If my post don´t like it, dont read it. It´s very simple.

what the hell is going on

Stand by..Ii think there is going to be swordplay with Toledo steel and flamenco music playing in the background any minute now.

i have a mental picture of two beret wearing mustachiod banditos sword fighting with baguettes.

jack merridew said:

what the hell is going on

are you gonna take this lying down Dennis? You're being out-drama'd by the Spaniards!