i just open this topics for people who like both games. it is made for every subjetcs about the two games.

i start with one subjetc the spyrer of necromunda. hows should they be look upon by the inquisition? does it see them as sanctioned death cult? bloody but normal nobles games? a spyrer gone rogue should gave what level of threat?

how an armor of an orrus work and cost.?

etc...

First,

Could you try to type normal english?

But to answer your question:
I think I've seen some Spyre fan material on Dark Reign...

GrtZ,

S.

Santiago said:

I believe he mentioned in another thread that he's from France (forgive me if I remember wrong) so I'm thinking it's not his first language.

In answer to your question, he is trying to type normal English, and he's better in his second language than I am in my second, third, or fourth.

hello, my appologies for any mistakes i could make in your tongue from now one i will begin my text by "from france". like this the're will be no misunderstanding about wich language i naturally speak.

a brief picture about france and roleplaying. france is not the oldest country to discover roleplaying game but problably one of the oldest. despite of this very few books are translated so players have to face the choice between learning english and have no or few materials availaible to them and is not that simple to learn another language. what do i mean ? simple if you want to share ideas with players from france or others country who do not have english has their native tongue you will have to be a little bit more conciliating.

but enough of it.back to the subject ?

my first question was i admit it badly write. i was simply wondering how the inquisition could see the practice of "the hunt" from the spyrers? how do you wiew it? is it a corrupt practice but one that the inquistion turn blind eye on it? or something forbiden?

my second question about how an orus batlle armor will work in dark heresy was again badly write so i will be more precise. if you look at the necromunda board game this armor seems to be a better armor than one of the astartes. it as bolt launcher in each arms and power gauntlet also in each arms. it has a power field. yes i know that in the begining it 's not like that important but the armour is improving with time.

do you imagine the price of such armor? personally i can't. now think about a vilain, rogue noble wrecking havoc in the underhive wearing that kind of armour. it seems challenging to face him, no? what will be is threat rank? minoris? extremis?

what could be the opinion of the servants of the machine god about this kind of armor? for me it will be a jewel for them.

well it 's late in france so goodbye. good game to you

the 8 spider said:

If it's any conciliation, your English is better then my French. My French mostly consists of:

Oui? Oui! Oui oui oui.

Hell, my English isn't even all that great and it is my native tongue :-x If you were writing in French, I'd be able to pick out the times you say "yes" but that would be about it. So I'm glad you're not trying to write in French ;-) I can understand your English just fine, so it's all good to me.

As for the =][= having issues with the Spyre hunts, I can't see why it would be heretical. It's just human life, and not even real humans but underhivers. The hunts wouldn't even register on the radar of the =][=. Their supper strange tech armor, however, might be heretical... but definitely not the hunts. Heck, ganger slaughter each other by the thousands and that's not heretical. In fact, it makes for some damned good solders!

As for the armour it's self, there would be no price. How can anyone buy it? It seems to be in the priceless supper unique category that only spyers from necromunda seem to have access to.

As for what the Ad-Mech would think of it, it all depends on where it came from. As far as I know, that was never addressed. If it's archeotech, then they would love to get their hands, metal tentacles, and face tubes on it and probably go to any murderous length to get a suit of it. If it's xenos tech, well, they along with most everyone else has a real dim view of people who use such technologies.

I tend to think that the Spyre equipment isn't Xenos or Archotech. More likely it is probably just custom to the wearer. We ARE talking about Nobles so its not like they don't have the extra Thrones to throw around for it.

As for the Orrus Armor, its probably just a suit of power armor where new features are unlocked as the Spyre learns how to access them. I doubt that it is actually better than Astartes power armor. I'm not sure if literally translating the stats for the characters out of Necromunda and putting them into the 40k setting would work. I don't know how the relative power levels work out.

Loved Necromunda... Like the idea of 40k, just don't have the time or the money to buy and paint so many figures.

In the latest (I think) Tau army book it indicates (if not out right tells us) that the Spyrer suits are Tau made monitoring devices. Designed to augment the wearer, and so make some one want to wear it, all the while recording everything that goes on.

I get the impression the Etherals would have wanted this end up in the hands of the IG rather than a bunch of Hive nobles that only use them to terrify poor underhive gangs.

However, I don't think it is common knowledge to the Imperium of the origins of the suits. You could have a Inqusitor or Tech Adept find out, but what happens next depending on whether they are radical or puritan?

from france

hello long time since my last post i was busy by what i will call "real lifre syndrome" (job, friends, familly, thinking how to shut down my noisy neighbours and son on). i have never seen any reference about the tau for the spyrer armour. maybe it wasn't in the french edition. can you post the specific passage if it is authorized or a least quote it?

Unfortunately not as I no longer have the book. It is on the very last page of the Tau Empire codex if memory serves

1. "GrtZ" is normal english, huh?

2. I'm planning on using a spyrer in my game at some point. Here's what I expect to happen:

• the players discover a series of murders happening in the Underhive, with indications that the victim was "toyed with" before death
• naturally they think "death cult" and investigate
• eventually they realise the murderer is actually a Spyrer
• the arbites[*] member of the party decides they should take out the Spyrer, because even though it isn't technically a heretic, it's definitely breaking the law
• the party end up hunted by the Spyrer (harsh!)
• assuming they successfully take him down, this will probably have political repercussions down the line

So as you can tell from the above, I think Spyrer's behaviour is probably not heretical, but it is illegal, though probably ignored by law enforcers. Still, the Inquisition do what they will and I would think the typical party would take exception to a Spyrer's activities.

[*] Actually Magistratum, local law enforcement. But the important thing is, she is "the law".

Page 64 of the Tau Codex on the far right side of the page which is a fluff report by a Tech-Priest named Zachary Santiago where he alludes to the Spryer hunting rigs as xenos tech and his conclusion is that it's Tau in origin. Does it flat out say it's Tau crafted, no. Do some Tech-Priests think it is, most likely. Does anyone care? Since they left Necromunda behind it's become more of a flavor point for current 40k unless FFG decides to expand its reach in where its books and modules touch by bringing them into Calixis from Necromunda (through perhaps the radical Inquisitor source book coming out later this year) or if/when they get to Rogue Trader and deal with those that ply the space-lines as a means of shipping them in.

Santiago said:

This type of commentary is why so many people from other countrys seem to dislike Americans. We can barely speak a word of any other countries languages yet we have no problem correcting others on their attempts at learning ours. We can't assume that everyone on the board speaks/writes in English as their primary language. Heck, technically we speak and write in American English, which is different from the English English.

I also found "GrtZ" an interesting take on normal English.

Interesting topic so far. I have been a huge fan of Necromunda and played the game for many years. I could easily see the game being played using the Dark Heresy ruleset. All the careers are there from guardsmen and arbitrator, to scum. I think a strictly Necromunda RPG would be too narrow a campaign focus for such an epic game as DH, but I'd be happy to play in such a campaign for a while.

from france

i don't like to necros old subject especially if it is one of mine but i finally found the link betwwen the spyrer and the tau. i find the idea totally ridiculous. necromunda is fa from tau space and i wil find it very strange that no other noble close to tau pasce or the inquisition have an eye on it.

maybe, just maybe a ship captain from necromunda figth against the tau and bring back the armor or a rogue trader to so. their is something wrong with the fluff there. wwere the tau that evolved? the tradition of the spyrer seems far older. why give piece of technology to people they will never encounter on batllefield.

in the novel legion by dan abnett the general of the imperial army seems to have a battle armorvery similar to the one wears by the patriarch.

i also read again the stats for the orrus. i guess they remove the power gauntlets it seem to have just... armored guantlets.

for now i'am just a player but i want to master a campaign in necromunda or something like it. a campaign with vilains like the spyrer but welll... i have nver been the kind of master able to create rules for equipements. so i will really like your help to have a descriptions for each of the six armor. i know that some of you are pretty good at it.

in advance thanks