Can House of Black & White Arya use her Response while Moribund?

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Dr.Cornelius said:

What if she's not going to another location?

The opponent chooses to force you to discard her, but you want to use her ability first. She's still going to be discarded and be put in its final destination (the discard pile) but can you still use her?

I know the answer is probably no, but I think the explanation "can't go to another location" is misleading, shouldn't it be "if she's moribund, the only response or effect you can use is a save or a response or effect that specifically happens when a card is moribund"?

I know, there are a lot more letters

The actual rule is that once a card is moribund, you cannot make it moribund a second time.

So if Arya is already moribund when you want to trigger her Response - no matter where she is headed - you cannot discard her (making her moribund a second time) in order to pay the cost of her ability. Discarding her after she has been discarded would still be making her moribund a second time, and is not allowed.

If a card is morbid but becomes cant be killed before it is removed from play what happens?

This is the realy real world man, there ain't no coming back!

In all seriousness though, once a card is moribund nothing (in the current card pool) can change that state, only it's destination can be changed through replacement effects.

It goes to the dead pile. Putting a kevlar vest onto a corpse doesn't heal the gunshot wound, ya know?

Once a card is moribund, nothing can make it "un-moribund". You can't "retroactively" make it ineligible for the effect that already killed it. The card must leave play.

ktom said:

lol, nice.

ktom said:

It's not the case. Claim is resolved before the passive of Bungled Orders, so the noble has already been killed and is moribund: dead pile. Switching to Power of Blood won't change that as the death has already happened. Timmet, Tyrion and Valar is different, as Timmet's save happens before Valar resolves so he never goes moribund.

I bet you can't think of a couple exceptions. ; )

Alandro is correct on both counts. Your "Bungled Orders" example is what we already said didn't work. Becoming CBK after you are already dead doesn't bring you back to life. And in the Timmett example, he becomes CBK before he dies/becomes moribund.

ktom said:

All joking aside, you are very correct that it is important to pay attention to when a card actually leaves play. It isn't always clear, but that is the point at which it becomes moribund - which is the point of no return.