I think it looks really fun.
How awesome is Greyscale?
Agreed, all kinds of fun to be had there.
I love cards that work multiple ways like this. Play on an opponent's character and then str reduce them or just as encouragement to not use that character.
Or use it on your own character to give them renown or maybe some gold (on some one that can use it) and then toss the attachment somehow.
It´s the perfect attach to a maestre Targaryen, you can use the reduced strenght chain and put the attachment, recover, again and again and again….
Freerider said:
i think that this card for two gold can be used in many no targaryens decks. ….this could be the first targarien banned card?
I seriously doubt it'll be banned any time soon.
There is nothing "broken" about putting this on an opponent's character. They either choose that character for claim, or never use it to win challenges. While it fits nicely with a lot of Targ burn, it also counteracts a lot of Targ burn (specifically the "choose a character without attachments" kind). Useful, but hardly over-powered.
Putting it on your own character is not likely to be "broken" either, because it is really risky. There are not a lot of characters that use the gold tokens on themselves as cost for something, so there are very few situations where using it to accumulate gold is worth it - and even fewer still where paying the gold before the character hits 0 STR and is discarded doesn't represent a pretty significant gamble.
So I think "banned" is very unlikely. Even "restricted" seems a stretch. If it ever actually does create NPE by being played on "gold cost" characters like the Viper of CS-Tywin, it's more likely to be errata'd to "House Baratheon or House Targaryen only" or "attach to an opponent's character" than banned.
ktom said:
I seriously doubt it'll be banned any time soon.
There is nothing "broken" about putting this on an opponent's character. They either choose that character for claim, or never use it to win challenges. While it fits nicely with a lot of Targ burn, it also counteracts a lot of Targ burn (specifically the "choose a character without attachments" kind). Useful, but hardly over-powered.
Putting it on your own character is not likely to be "broken" either, because it is really risky. There are not a lot of characters that use the gold tokens on themselves as cost for something, so there are very few situations where using it to accumulate gold is worth it - and even fewer still where paying the gold before the character hits 0 STR and is discarded doesn't represent a pretty significant gamble.
So I think "banned" is very unlikely. Even "restricted" seems a stretch. If it ever actually does create NPE by being played on "gold cost" characters like the Viper of CS-Tywin, it's more likely to be errata'd to "House Baratheon or House Targaryen only" or "attach to an opponent's character" than banned.
Yes ktom, i was talking this afternoon with my friends, and you are right, best if its only H targaryen o H baratheon, because in a Maestre of any house would be very very strong……….hahahhaha…..Another restricted or rewrited card because of maestre path (Robert (kL), dothraki in QofD,…..) Why designers didnt look that this card in maestres its very powerfull?.
orion_kurnous said:
ktom said:
orion_kurnous said:
Are you sure they didn't? It's all theory at this point for us, right? It's probably a good idea to play with it before we decide that it is just "too" strong in a Maester build and so requires errata, restriction, or banning.
Well, you see that Poisoned coin its only H stark, i believe that designers would have to carefully whith new attach, only for maester path. Well, we see in the next games how strong its grey scale.
It's pretty awesome. As a Baratheon player, I see it as targeted kill/control. They either need to keep them standing for dominance, use them for claim. (But I'd drop it on Lions Cersi or someone else who's being a pain, that they wouldn't want to kill.) Combo it up with hunting spear or salla's escort ship to really make it work for ya.
Hardly imbalanced with all the other targeted kill and attachment hate out there. It could be nice with an shadow asshai build for an extra few power on a power of faith turn. (As long as you have enough str or flaming sword.)
Having just had this card played by my opponent on my Red Viper (PotS), it sucks and can be a pretty powerful card. Used positively on cards like Grey Worm and the newer Red Viper is also a great use. Seems to me like a pretty great card choice. And in a rush deck it's not a problem if you drop to zero strength, throw them into a challenge anyway and claim the renown, even better if the character has stealth, deadly, or some other keyword to help even without any strength.
Don't forget, Greyscale has a terminal effect, discarding characters whose STR reaches 0.