Freed Galley

By Amuk, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Only spoiled a few hours and already a question has arisen as to its text:

Response: After you win an unopposed challenge, kneel Freed Galley to claim 1 power for any participating unique [Greyjoy] character.

Okay, so what does "any" mean here? All participating uniques or just one? And does the power go on the character(s) or House card?

I lean to just one -- it would only have taken one more letter to say "each." I also read it as claiming power for one's House since it doesn't say that the character claims the power. But both are ambiguous enough that a ruling would be helpful.

WTB better templating. 5G

Wait that's only 1 plot… 25G.

Yes, I would give up my whole plot deck for better templating. I don't know what that means, but it sounds good doesn't it?

I guess it's just not as confusing to me, but the way I read the effect is like this:

There is 1 power.

Give it to any unique GJ character that participated.

The common template we see are "for each" and "any number". With those being absent, I only see giving 1 power for 1 unique participating GJ character.

If claim 1 power for your House card means put it on your house card, then claim 1 power for any participating character means to put it on that select unique GJ character.

Bomb said:

I guess it's just not as confusing to me, but the way I read the effect is like this:

There is 1 power.

Give it to any unique GJ character that participated.

The common template we see are "for each" and "any number". With those being absent, I only see giving 1 power for 1 unique participating GJ character.

If claim 1 power for your House card means put it on your house card, then claim 1 power for any participating character means to put it on that select unique GJ character.

I see the claim portion as ambiguous largely because the card (perhaps intentionally) avoids the word "choose." But also because these types of effects generally say "that character claims…" not "for" which could simply indicate a counting mechanism.

Compare to Storm's End"

"…you may claim 1 power each for 2 different (BARA) characters."

Not only does it show you what the template would be like if more than 1 unique GJ got a power ("1 power each"), it makes it pretty clear that the power claimed "for X characters" goes on the characters themselves. After all, has anyone ever thought that the 2 power you claimed "for the characters" went on your House with Storm's End?

So I think it's pretty clear that Bomb has the correct interpretation.

Excellent. Thanks, ktom.

ktom said:

Compare to Storm's End"

"…you may claim 1 power each for 2 different (BARA) characters."

Not only does it show you what the template would be like if more than 1 unique GJ got a power ("1 power each"), it makes it pretty clear that the power claimed "for X characters" goes on the characters themselves. After all, has anyone ever thought that the 2 power you claimed "for the characters" went on your House with Storm's End?

So I think it's pretty clear that Bomb has the correct interpretation.

Awwwww I'm sorry to ruin your vision of a perfect world but I always thought with storm's end you would get one power on the house card every 2 different characters you control. So with 10 different characters 5 power.

**** I feel sooooo dumb right now.

A character that is Immune to card effects would not be able to claim the power, right?

Correct. The character is claiming the power, so this is a direct effect on the character. That means immunity to location effects (or card effects) would prevent it.

I get the confusion, though. Since we know that power is a "peripheral entity," like attachments, there is a temptation to think that the location is affecting the power rather than the character it is put on (like when He Calls It Thinking affects the event-made-attachment directly and the character it becomes attached to only indirectly), so immunity wouldn't prevent it. But that's not the case here. "Claim power for the character" is still going to be considered the same thing as the character claiming the power.

Why is it the same thing? The word "for"? How is the location directly affecting the character? The subject of imperative sentences are usually the person being spoken to.

You have to consider the context and remember the mechanics of the game. When the player claims power, it is put on the House card. Power placed on any other card is that card claiming the power "for" itself.

Is this a "play by convention" thing? I can't find any reason in the rules or FAQ it would be the case. The only line that comes close is on page 16 of the Core Set Rules, but it doesn't really outline any reason it would be prevented:

"When a card effect allows a character to claim X power, take X counters from the power pool and place them on the character card. Power thus claimed is put on the character instead of the House card."

What section is it covered by?

Send it in to FFG if you need an official interpretation. Lord knows I've been wrong before.