Guys,
After I made my hotel and plane reservations I was reading today and found out that apparently the tourney format was deemed to be illegal in Minnesota. Should I try and get my money back from the airlines? Unfortunately my hotel is non-refundable so I'm probably stuck on that one. Is everyone else still planning to go and just cross your fingers that the hall just doesn't get raided? Seems like a pretty big risk. Dare I say even a gamble.
Do what?
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where u read that
dcdennis said:
Guys,
After I made my hotel and plane reservations I was reading today and found out that apparently the tourney format was deemed to be illegal in Minnesota. Should I try and get my money back from the airlines? Unfortunately my hotel is non-refundable so I'm probably stuck on that one. Is everyone else still planning to go and just cross your fingers that the hall just doesn't get raided? Seems like a pretty big risk. Dare I say even a gamble.
I suspect there's a ~ missing from this post.
Playing card games as a group without gambling isn't illegal anywhere.
First rule of any dcdennis post: Don't take anything dcdennis says seriously.
But you're right. Under MN law, it is legal to "[o]ffer[] of purses, prizes or premiums to the actual contestants in any bona fide contest for the determination of skill, speed, strength, endurance or quality, or to the bona fide owners of animals or other property entered in such a contest." As AGOT is a contest of skill (well, when people not me are playing it, anyway), it would be excluded.
I call this dcdennis' version of the misleading potential opponents by posting erroneous tourney decklists ploy.
*sigh*
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actually it was an attempt at subtle trolling in a ref to the other thread where someone said we better cancel the warmup event because ffg would be raided and sued cuz gambling was illegal in minn. guess it was a little too subtle. well at least 3 people got the joke, and thats good enough for me. ill use that as a template with who i can be friends with 
dcdennis said:
actually it was an attempt at subtle trolling in a ref to the other thread where someone said we better cancel the warmup event because ffg would be raided and sued cuz gambling was illegal in minn. guess it was a little too subtle. well at least 3 people got the joke, and thats good enough for me. ill use that as a template with who i can be friends with
I didn't say that you ought to cancel it. I said that you should host is somewhere besides the FFG Event Center, if you are going to be playing for money, due to gambling laws here in MN. Although it is a social bet, since it would occur on the premises of a business, the business can be seen as receiving the benefit of increased patronage due to the gambling, and therefore itself be profiting from gambling, which would be inappropriate.
If you want to play for money, just host it elsewhere. If you don't care about the money part, then no worries.
haha i really don't know what to say at this point. either a) you are the oddest person in existence and really believe that people should be concerned about breaking that law, or b) you have vastly superior trolling skills than my own
In case it is the former, I have a few additional stern warnings for you in case you have occasion to travel to other states in our great nation. The following lists actual laws on the book in our country, and a few others (source: http://itthing.com/100-weird-laws-from-around-the-world):
1. In Oklahoma, you can be arrested for making ugly faces at a dog.
2. In Salt Lake County, Utah, it’s illegal to walk down the street carrying a violin in a paper bag.
3. In San Francisco, it’s illegal to pile horse manure more than six feet high on a street corner.
4. In Devon, Texas, it is against the law to make furniture while you are nude.
5. In Bozeman, Montana, a law prohibits all sexual activity from the front yard of a home after sundown.
6. In California it is illegal for a vehicle without a driver to exceed 60 miles per hour.
7. In Florida men seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown can be fined.
8. In South Carolina it is legal to beat your wife on the court house steps, but only on Sundays.
9. In Tennessee, you are breaking the law if you drive while sleeping.
10. In New York, the penalty for jumping off a building is: Death.
11. In Danville, Pennsylvania, all fire hydrants must be checked one hour before all fires.
12. In Connersville, Wisconsin, during sexual intercourse, it is against the law for a man to fire his gun whilst the woman in having an orgasm.
13. In Pennsylvania, it’s against the law to tie a dollar bill on a string on the ground and pull it away when someone tries to pick it up.
14. In New York City, it’s illegal for a restaurant to call a sandwich a “corned beef sandwich” if it’s made with white bread and mayonnaise.
15. In San Francisco, California it is unlawful to use used underwear to wipe off cars in a car wash.
16. In France, it is against the law to sell an “E.T” doll. They have a law forbidding the sale of dolls that do not have human faces.
I'll have to call Ignoratio Elenchi there. My argument is that, because a certain law, or set of laws, exist, you would be putting the FFG Event Center at risk of transgression by gambling within their establishment. So, you ought to be respectful of them, and not host an event that involves gambling on their premises.
You are arguing about the validity of the law itself, which, in the context of our current conversation, is irrelevant. I think that portions of the gambling related statutes are silly and absurd as well. And, many states have piles of outdated, archaic laws on the books which are quite absurd. But, that really brings nothing to bear on our current engagement. You shouldn't put the FFG Center at risk of breaking gambling laws, even if those laws themselves are silly, and the probability of police raiding the place is low.
You argue from a sort of self-referential utilitarian algorithm, which places small weight on the risk to FFG in relation to your future perceived benefit or enjoyment, and also mix in the irrelevancies about the nature of the laws themselves. I argue from a deontological grounding in principle, as well as, I suppose, from a form of virtue ethics.
divinityofnumber said:
I'll have to call Ignoratio Elenchi there. My argument is that, because a certain law, or set of laws, exist, you would be putting the FFG Event Center at risk of transgression by gambling within their establishment. So, you ought to be respectful of them, and not host an event that involves gambling on their premises.
You are arguing about the validity of the law itself, which, in the context of our current conversation, is irrelevant. I think that portions of the gambling related statutes are silly and absurd as well. And, many states have piles of outdated, archaic laws on the books which are quite absurd. But, that really brings nothing to bear on our current engagement. You shouldn't put the FFG Center at risk of breaking gambling laws, even if those laws themselves are silly, and the probability of police raiding the place is low.
You argue from a sort of self-referential utilitarian algorithm, which places small weight on the risk to FFG in relation to your future perceived benefit or enjoyment, and also mix in the irrelevancies about the nature of the laws themselves. I argue from a deontological grounding in principle, as well as, I suppose, from a form of virtue ethics.
Thanks Sheldon.
Has anyone seen my giant stick?! I must have misplaced it somewhere…
dcdennis said:
haha i really don't know what to say at this point. either a) you are the oddest person in existence and really believe that people should be concerned about breaking that law, or b) you have vastly superior trolling skills than my own
In case it is the former, I have a few additional stern warnings for you in case you have occasion to travel to other states in our great nation. The following lists actual laws on the book in our country, and a few others (source: http://itthing.com/100-weird-laws-from-around-the-world):
1. In Oklahoma, you can be arrested for making ugly faces at a dog.
2. In Salt Lake County, Utah, it’s illegal to walk down the street carrying a violin in a paper bag.
3. In San Francisco, it’s illegal to pile horse manure more than six feet high on a street corner.
4. In Devon, Texas, it is against the law to make furniture while you are nude.
5. In Bozeman, Montana, a law prohibits all sexual activity from the front yard of a home after sundown.
6. In California it is illegal for a vehicle without a driver to exceed 60 miles per hour.
7. In Florida men seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown can be fined.
8. In South Carolina it is legal to beat your wife on the court house steps, but only on Sundays.
9. In Tennessee, you are breaking the law if you drive while sleeping.
10. In New York, the penalty for jumping off a building is: Death.
11. In Danville, Pennsylvania, all fire hydrants must be checked one hour before all fires.
12. In Connersville, Wisconsin, during sexual intercourse, it is against the law for a man to fire his gun whilst the woman in having an orgasm.
13. In Pennsylvania, it’s against the law to tie a dollar bill on a string on the ground and pull it away when someone tries to pick it up.
14. In New York City, it’s illegal for a restaurant to call a sandwich a “corned beef sandwich” if it’s made with white bread and mayonnaise.
15. In San Francisco, California it is unlawful to use used underwear to wipe off cars in a car wash.
16. In France, it is against the law to sell an “E.T” doll. They have a law forbidding the sale of dolls that do not have human faces.
also its illegal to sleep naked in minnesota just to warn you guys lol
also yea mn is weird about gambling because of the casino's only on reservations and such but no one cares.
Can someone get me a list of all of minnesotas wacky rules? Id like to try and break all of them while im there and need a to do list.
dcdennis said:
Can someone get me a list of all of minnesotas wacky rules? Id like to try and break all of them while im there and need a to do list.
Here are a few (alleged) such laws for you:
The land of 10,000 lakes declares mosquitos a public nuisance.
It is illegal to stand around any building without a good reason to be there.
A person may not cross state lines with a duck atop his head.
It is illegal to sleep naked.
All men driving motorcycles must wear shirts.
Citizens may not enter Wisconsin with a chicken on their head.
Oral sex is prohibited.
All bathtubs must have feet.
Minneapolis
People are forbidden from walking in and/or down alleyways.
Red cars may not drive down Lake Street.
Some of these may be apocyrphal--but that shouldn't stop you from breaking them just in case.
wow suprised i never heard the no oral one before ha
Amuk said:
dcdennis said:
Can someone get me a list of all of minnesotas wacky rules? Id like to try and break all of them while im there and need a to do list.
Here are a few (alleged) such laws for you:
The land of 10,000 lakes declares mosquitos a public nuisance.
It is illegal to stand around any building without a good reason to be there.
A person may not cross state lines with a duck atop his head.
It is illegal to sleep naked.
All men driving motorcycles must wear shirts.
Citizens may not enter Wisconsin with a chicken on their head.
Oral sex is prohibited.
All bathtubs must have feet.
Minneapolis
People are forbidden from walking in and/or down alleyways.
Red cars may not drive down Lake Street.
Some of these may be apocyrphal--but that shouldn't stop you from breaking them just in case.
Plan of Action
Convert my footless bathtub into red a motorcycle, collect a nest of west nile infected mosquitos in the saddle bags, drive to worlds via the alley behind lake street, naked, while getting a blow job from a duck.
dcdennis said:
Amuk said:
dcdennis said:
Some of these may be apocyrphal--but that shouldn't stop you from breaking them just in case.
Plan of Action
Convert my footless bathtub into red a motorcycle, collect a nest of west nile infected mosquitos in the saddle bags, drive to worlds via the alley behind lake street, naked, while getting a blow job from a duck.
I think that, even if none of those laws is actually real, you still stand a very high chance of getting arrested.
After a very long week, thanks for the laugh.
dcdennis said:
Amuk said:
dcdennis said:
Can someone get me a list of all of minnesotas wacky rules? Id like to try and break all of them while im there and need a to do list.
Here are a few (alleged) such laws for you:
The land of 10,000 lakes declares mosquitos a public nuisance.
It is illegal to stand around any building without a good reason to be there.
A person may not cross state lines with a duck atop his head.
It is illegal to sleep naked.
All men driving motorcycles must wear shirts.
Citizens may not enter Wisconsin with a chicken on their head.
Oral sex is prohibited.
All bathtubs must have feet.
Minneapolis
People are forbidden from walking in and/or down alleyways.
Red cars may not drive down Lake Street.
Some of these may be apocyrphal--but that shouldn't stop you from breaking them just in case.
Plan of Action
Convert my footless bathtub into red a motorcycle, collect a nest of west nile infected mosquitos in the saddle bags, drive to worlds via the alley behind lake street, naked, while getting a blow job from a duck.
and spitting. add that too. after tb outbreak. i spit from our work truck and someone phoned our boss. wow! not because of tb or the bylaw. it is gross i guess. i usually try not to spit when others are looking. good news: i have never been arrested for spitting… yet. cross my fingers.
oh yeah . flashback it was grade 4. buddy and i in class started collecting toys and money from other kids. and we made tickets and colored over the winnings with silver crayon. you had to scratch it to see if you one, what you won. teahcer got wind of it. asked if this was legal. "oh yes Mrs. Anderson". she goes home, asks her husband about thesed going ons comes to school next day and closed us down. her husband was a cop. good times.