How are most of you planning on storing your Netrunner cards? For those that already have some of the other Living Card Games, how have you stored them? Right now I'm just using the box, but as more and more cards are added, I could see that becoming harder to do. I though about going full on card geek and getting a binder, but then I'm not sure if you can get them with some sort of pocket to place the rule book. I plan on getting one of the FFG dek boxes and am hoping the counters will all fit in the counter holder (but I kind of doubt they will). Anyway, looking for what other folks are doing/planning to do so I can steal….errrr….borrow some ideas.
Card Storage
TheTick said:
How are most of you planning on storing your Netrunner cards? For those that already have some of the other Living Card Games, how have you stored them? Right now I'm just using the box, but as more and more cards are added, I could see that becoming harder to do. I though about going full on card geek and getting a binder, but then I'm not sure if you can get them with some sort of pocket to place the rule book. I plan on getting one of the FFG dek boxes and am hoping the counters will all fit in the counter holder (but I kind of doubt they will). Anyway, looking for what other folks are doing/planning to do so I can steal….errrr….borrow some ideas.
I don't think all of the tokens would fit in one of those deck boxes, but if you're carrying a Corp and a Runner deck in their own boxes, the two of them might hold enough to play with.
I hadn't considered putting each deck in it's own box. I had assumed I could fit both in the same box. but now that I consider it, those boxes state they hold 100 cards so it would only work as long as the decks were at or very close to the minimum size. I also just kind of like the artwork on the box so would hate to ditch it entirely. Maybe what I'll end up doing is taking the insert out of the box and then putting card boxes inside the box itself with the tokens in bags. That would probably work. Especially if the deck boxes from FFG fit in there.
for me there is only one viable way to store cards… while people put some amazing work into boxes containers or adding inserts… I think the only real option is pocket sheets….
I use ultra pro sheets, you can hold 4 LCG cards in a single pocket sleeved with dragon shields with ease…. then grap a nice thick and haerd cover binder like shown here, you can even get binders in leather and other nice materials.
What you know have is a book you can flip though were you can see every single card face. Great for showing off to other players as well as just looking though your collection to deck build or just get off. As it is sheets you can easily order your cards if yuo want entire factions in a single area….
So I store the tokens and other crap in the original box, but eventually move them to the smaller major expansion when that is released.
For individual decks I wish to take to an event.. I simply use an old dragon shield box, or I make a tuckbox form imagery form the net.
Ultra Pro has dual deck boxes. They hold a total of 180 sleeved cards in two 90 card places. I've found them online for 5 dollars as well as at my FLGS for the same price. I've never tried them but they seem perfect for Netrunner, especially if you go the minimalist route and build a 45 card deck. Two 45 card decks in one slot, all the tokens, dice, and counters you could want in the other (Still would put them all in a tiny baggie inside the slot though).
sounds neat.. but teh problem i have with box solutions for card games is that as you end up with 1000s of card it takes you forever to find certain cards. This is why i go with teh sheets, as you can flip though your collection like a book and see every card face….
booored said:
sounds neat.. but teh problem i have with box solutions for card games is that as you end up with 1000s of card it takes you forever to find certain cards. This is why i go with teh sheets, as you can flip though your collection like a book and see every card face….
I totally agree with that. I prefer to keep my CCGs/LCGs in binders. They protect them and make deck building a breeze. I keep my Magic rares in a binder. I will probably be keeping my Netrunner cards in a binder as well as the packs start releasing. With the small amount I have now (Two core sets) it just isn't feasible to be constantly paging and unpaging as I build and tear decks apart several times a day.
I was only suggesting the dual deck box as a means of transporting to gaming sessions.
I have a number of FFG deck boxes I use for other games (I bought five at $3 a pop @GC), but the decks alone are a tight squeeze— and the tokens are nowhere close to fitting within the token box. I'm using a larger cardboard box at the moment, and it fits well; mine is finished, but you can probably find an appropriately sized box in the storage (not deck box) section of your LGS.
As for the unused cards, I'm storing them by number in a Ultra Pro Pro Binder; it should probably get me at least through the first cycle of data packs, because you can stack 4-6 cards comfortably per slot, so I don't need to spread out duplicates. Also, once you go side–loading, you never go back.
I put my decks into Dragon Shields and then into a standard card box. I also use the Binder/Sleeve approach for cards to make deck building easier.
I picked up two core sets, so I'm thinking of modding one of the boxes to better carry things, as there's a hell of a lot of "dead space" in the box. It should be possible to add in lift flaps on the sides.
The core set box was made for the rulebook (and shelf–space, too, probably), not to store cards. Oh well, it's really nice & I'll end up not pitching it until the next time I move. (But the rulebook was totally worth it.)
I'm not sure I agree with you. It's got room for about 3 rows of cards stored on a long edge. I suspect you'll be able to fit one core set and the genesis cycle on one row. The current box configuration is designed for rigidity and visual appeal but can be retooled with some xacto knife surgery.
pwnguin said:
I'm not sure I agree with you. It's got room for about 3 rows of cards stored on a long edge. I suspect you'll be able to fit one core set and the genesis cycle on one row. The current box configuration is designed for rigidity and visual appeal but can be retooled with some xacto knife surgery.
OK, yeah, you can jerry–rig up a way to do it, but as–is it isn't made for it. I haven't used the AGoT box (the same size or close to it) to store anything other than the board & figures for melee, unless I'm taking it out as a ‘stand–alone’ game with the (reconstructed) starters— so that's where my feelings on this come from.
It's still a beautiful & well–made box, though! FFG packaging & components always impress me vs the rest of the industry.
You can take your Netrunner card box, pull up the cardboard insert, turn it upside down, re-insert it. Now you have two rows for cards, and you can push in the flaps in the center or cut a bigger hole in the center to store bags of tokens etc.
Even better than that is to pull out the cardboard insert, flatten it out, then reverse the folds and get much the same effect, except you get to look at the inside artwork instead of plain cardboard.
Regarding binders :
I used to do binders for other games, but have given it up.
The difference for me is that I found that deck building with online tools such as the cardgamedb website is better than looking at the cards themselves. At least for me, it's easier to do some queries, e.g. "what Ice can I get from outside HB that is 1 influence" and get a list, rather than flipping back and forth through a binder.
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-deck-builder
Unless I'm really quickly throwing together a deck, I'll use a tool to make a deck list, and then build from that.
And so, it's enough to just sort cards by faction and alphabetically, and store them in a standard cardboard card box. Works just as well for deck building once I have my list. I find boxes are more portable and better protection than a binder.
Obviously your mileage may vary.
I only sleeve cards that are in decks. For this game, FFG silverlines because they are clear and I like the way the Netrunner backs look. Loose cards go in vertical oriented boxes and are sorted by faction/type/alphabetic order with labeled dividers so finding the card I want is never an issue.
Decks will go in red and blue Rook deckview capsules:
X2 each of blue/red is enough for main decks. Black deckview capsules are good enough for any other fun/b-decks. I like the plexi-window because it provides a visual of the Identity card. The tokens and other game amenities will be stored within the ziplocks that came with the game inside regular capsules; credit tokens in one, the rest in another.
The capsules are carried in one of these:
Rook cases are steel, so when fully weighted with cards they are ideal for braining potential muggers. Since the case is big enough to hold 16 Rook capsules I will most likely carry extra cards I am looking at possibly swap into decks (like sideboards) or maybe even the complete collection until it gets large enough to warrant the big box.
EDIT: I agree 100% with prune about cardgamedb. This will be the third LCG I have picked up that will benefit from the site's tech.
Sleeves and then put main decks into deck boxes I have left over from playing MtG. Throw tokens into a third deck box, and I am able to at least be ready to play but not ready to modify the decks.
Either will keep all remainder of cards in the orignal core box, sleeved and sorted, or purchase one of the long card boxes that can still fit into a sidebag for times when my friends and I test/modify decks.
hey there,
Atm im using the binders as posted above with 9 card pages . i also sleeve my cards before i put them in a binder. Here
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are some pictures of several pages of a game of throne cards.
There are 6 different houses and i sleeve all of them in there appropriate color
Stark = White sleeves
Grejoy = Blue sleeves
Lannister = Yellow sleeves
Martell = Orange sleeves
Targaryen = Red sleeves
Baratheon = Green sleeves
Then i did sleeve all multi house and neutral cards in black sleeves but swapping them into decks is turning out to be a hassle so im removing all the black sleeves from the neutral and multi-house cards.
What i intend to do with netrunner i have no idea yet, i think im going with the binder again. I do sleeve all my runner cards in red sleeves (doesnt matter what identity or neutral) and i sleeve all my corp cards in blue sleeves (doesnt matter what corporation or neutral).
I might sort them in binders by identity and corporation.
Well, what I ended up going with is picking up two FFG deck boxes, one each for Runner and Corp. I sleeved the cards in the deck and then put the rest of the cards, sleeveless, into small, cardboard card boxes. All the tokens went into a plastic card box, and then all of that, along with the rule book, fit into the original Netrunner box after taking out the insert. There is still room for a third card box if I need it, unless I can find a pair that are the same height and width, but a bit longer. Ideally, I'd like to have 2 card boxes that are the length of the box to either side, with the FFG deck boxes and token box in the middle, but what I have going now will work for quite a while.
I have found what I consider the perfect solution, and I doubt I will ever do anything else for any LCG games.
First, my requirements:
1. Use the Core Set box to hold the components. There are around 100 board games on my shelf including 5 LCGs now, so I need to have the name of each game clearly visible. Since the Core Set boxes all have great artwork and large titles it is ideal
2. The solution needs to be able to hold lots of sleeved cards, including the tall FFG sleeves in some cases.
3. The solution needs to be elegant, convenient (to take decks in and out, etc), and look really good. I want to impress other gamers.
(Note: low price is not a requirement)
SOLUTION COMPONENTS (storage solution price is about $40):
7x Ultra Pro Acrylic Deck box, clear plastic, 100 sleeved cards. Only TOP is used from each box placed upside down to create 7 open trays in the box.
1x 400 count cardboard deck box (unsleeved cards only). Top flat cut out for open access if the core set box is opened.
SOLUTION: Once you have the components above, your task is to fit them in the Core Set box. There is only one way to do this, and you will see that it fits perfectly.
I have Lord of the Rings the Card Game with all expansions and it fits everything that we need to play (some scenarios left out of the box since we are done with them). I will post some pictures to emphasize the perfection of this solution.
opethwindowpane said:
I have found what I consider the perfect solution, and I doubt I will ever do anything else for any LCG games.
First, my requirements:
1. Use the Core Set box to hold the components. There are around 100 board games on my shelf including 5 LCGs now, so I need to have the name of each game clearly visible. Since the Core Set boxes all have great artwork and large titles it is ideal
2. The solution needs to be able to hold lots of sleeved cards, including the tall FFG sleeves in some cases.
3. The solution needs to be elegant, convenient (to take decks in and out, etc), and look really good. I want to impress other gamers.
(Note: low price is not a requirement)
SOLUTION COMPONENTS (storage solution price is about $40):
8x Ultra Pro Acrylic Deck box, clear plastic, 100 sleeved cards. Only TOP is used from each box placed upside down to create 8 open trays in the box.
1x 400 count cardboard deck box (unsleeved cards only). Top flat cut out for open access if the core set box is opened.
SOLUTION: Once you have the components above, your task is to fit them in the Core Set box. There is only one way to do this, and you will see that it fits perfectly.
I have Lord of the Rings the Card Game with all expansions and it fits everything that we need to play (some scenarios left out of the box since we are done with them). I will post some pictures to emphasize the perfection of this solution.
After some thought, I think there are only 7 plastic boxes. I'll post pictures tonight when I get home (in about 6 hours).
TheTick said:
Well, what I ended up going with is picking up two FFG deck boxes, one each for Runner and Corp. I sleeved the cards in the deck and then put the rest of the cards, sleeveless, into small, cardboard card boxes. All the tokens went into a plastic card box, and then all of that, along with the rule book, fit into the original Netrunner box after taking out the insert. There is still room for a third card box if I need it, unless I can find a pair that are the same height and width, but a bit longer. Ideally, I'd like to have 2 card boxes that are the length of the box to either side, with the FFG deck boxes and token box in the middle, but what I have going now will work for quite a while.
The 550 Count boxes should be the right length, but they do not hold the FFG sleeves and you'll want a divider between decks that does not stick up very far. For me this did not work well.
opethwindowpane said:
I have found what I consider the perfect solution, and I doubt I will ever do anything else for any LCG games.
First, my requirements:
1. Use the Core Set box to hold the components. There are around 100 board games on my shelf including 5 LCGs now, so I need to have the name of each game clearly visible. Since the Core Set boxes all have great artwork and large titles it is ideal
2. The solution needs to be able to hold lots of sleeved cards, including the tall FFG sleeves in some cases.
3. The solution needs to be elegant, convenient (to take decks in and out, etc), and look really good. I want to impress other gamers.
(Note: low price is not a requirement)
SOLUTION COMPONENTS (storage solution price is about $40):
7x Ultra Pro Acrylic Deck box, clear plastic, 100 sleeved cards. Only TOP is used from each box placed upside down to create 7 open trays in the box.
1x 400 count cardboard deck box (unsleeved cards only). Top flat cut out for open access if the core set box is opened.
SOLUTION: Once you have the components above, your task is to fit them in the Core Set box. There is only one way to do this, and you will see that it fits perfectly.
I have Lord of the Rings the Card Game with all expansions and it fits everything that we need to play (some scenarios left out of the box since we are done with them). I will post some pictures to emphasize the perfection of this solution.
Here it is:
I just did this:
That is very spiffy Doc Savage
yeah this is exactly teh type of storage solution i think it impractical for a game of this type. I used to use it myself for CoC… here is example of one of my boxes from the old days…
But as the game gets larger, it gets worse and worse… finding individual cards is a pain, and you need to remake the inserts all the time as if you break it into sections like above, eventually your faction will just not fit. You can use dividers (slightly larger cards) but again.. finding individual cards is still a nightmare. I think storage solutions like this is one of teh factors that lead people to use single decks.
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sorry for using fagic the gathering… but i had to google an image quickly .. as I am not home to take a pic of my collection,