the claim raise on the burned men bypasses loyalty money can buy right? Meaning that if the enemy has loyalty money can buy and i have valar morghulis, when I attack with burned men my claim is raised to 1?

Cards like aero hotah and arianne martell specify that it raises the revealed claim on plot while burned men says only raise claim by 1. Loyalty money can buy specifies the claim on the revealed plot

There is no difference between the terms. It's kind of like how Summer Sea "reduces" the cost of the next Targ character by 2, but the Great Pyramid of Meereen "lowers" the cost of the next Targ character by 2.

so the total claim would be 0 in the example above?

If there is no difference then shouldn't the plot Blockade block also gold producing locations?

nvm I understood the difference.

Thanks

Reager said:

Loyalty Money Can Buy says to lower the claim value "on" the plot by 1. So your claim is "claim value - 1." Burned Men says to raise the claim (no "on") by 1. So your claim is "claim value + 1." When the two apply at the same time (since the "on" doesn't matter), your claim is "claim value - 1 + 1." Meaning that if the base claim value was 1, your claim value is going to be "1 - 1 + 1 = 1".

Effectively, both the plot and the character are modifiers. They modify the same thing. So they are combined together and applied just the one time. So, in this case, they cancel each other out.

Reager said:

Said another way, the calculation must be "printed income - Blockade + location #1 + location #2 + etc. = X." In order for Blockade to also block the gold producing locations, the calculation would have to be "printed income + location #1 + location #2 + etc. = X - Blockade = 0." And creating a sequence to applying modifiers is not how the game works.

Reager said:

ktom said:

His example was if he had VM revealed, so his claim would still end up as zero right?

Slothgodfather said: