Hi everyone, I would like an explanation about the agenda "The Brotherhood without banners": if I dont have any brotherhood character I cant claim or move any power on my house, because of course I MUST place it on a brotherhood i control instead… right?
Correct. That is the main drawback to this agenda. If you have no Brotherhood characters in play, you cannot accumulate power. Period.
Well, to nitpick, you can still accumulate power for renown or character abilities.
So, more like, you cannot accumulate power onto your House card. Period.
ktom said:
That is the main drawback to this agenda.
Usually it helps the Brotherhood player more than it hurts, IMO. It can always happen that you have no Brotherhood character in play for a turn or so, and an inconveniently gaining power on your house card during such a turn might well wreck your whole game. OTOH, if your Brotherhood deck is so poorly built that not being able to claim power at all due to lack of Brotherhood characters becomes a serious issue, you're doomed anyway.
Ratatoskr said:
Usually it helps the Brotherhood player more than it hurts, IMO. It can always happen that you have no Brotherhood character in play for a turn or so, and an inconveniently gaining power on your house card during such a turn might well wreck your whole game. OTOH, if your Brotherhood deck is so poorly built that not being able to claim power at all due to lack of Brotherhood characters becomes a serious issue, you're doomed anyway.
That's a good point, but I think that if I did play a Brotherhood deck, I would choose not to claim any power on a turn where I had no Brotherhood characters (if this was not the case) as, like you said, the power there would ruin your game.
Then again, I suppose you might still want to try and attack your opponents, even if you weren't going to be claiming any power. But if you've built a Brotherhood deck and you have no Brotherhood characters out, what is the likelihood that you'll win any challenges?
J_Roel said:
That's a good point, but I think that if I did play a Brotherhood deck, I would choose not to claim any power on a turn where I had no Brotherhood characters (if this was not the case) as, like you said, the power there would ruin your game.
You might not be in the position to choose. If you have more standing STR than your opponent, they can let you win dominance. Depending on the icon spread on the table, they might even be in a position to attack you and still be sure you win domi. And if you kneel all your characters to attack them, they'll just give you the uo.
Here's a tourney report from Black Friday 2010 in which a situation like that occured (the Brotherhood player played without the Agenda, of course). Still a compelling read even after 2 years, especially because both finalists posted comprehensive reports in that thread, so you get to see both perspectives.
J_Roel said:
Having a Brotherhood deck doesn't mean all or even the vast majority of your characters should be Brotherhood characters. There's not that many of those to begin with, and not all of them are any good. You'll have a solid core of BH chars and pad it with good characters from your house.
Ratatoskr said:
Ratatoskr said:
Having a Brotherhood deck doesn't mean all or even the vast majority of your characters should be Brotherhood characters. There's not that many of those to begin with, and not all of them are any good. You'll have a solid core of BH chars and pad it with good characters from your house.
That's a good point, which I'm realizing right now as I was in the process of trying my hand at a Brotherhood deck (though I'm missing two crucial packs from the cycle). I'll also be sure to take a look at that report, thanks