Play Area

By RockSoldier, in X-Wing

Sorry in advance if I just haven't seen this listed somewhere, but…

Is there an official play area size? What did they use for the GenCon tournament?

The GenCon demo videos looked like it was around 3'x3'

In the rules the "standard" is 3x3' but also say you can expand and make it bigger.

The rules imply that 3' x 3' is good for upto 100pts but suggests that expanding the game beyond 100pts would probably be better in a larger space. But doesn't give any rules of thumb. Pretty much the rulebook says go ahead and experiment, which makes me think there hasn't been a lot of play testing at a larger scale.

-DavicusPrime

3'x3 is the official play size, but the rules do imply that it can be addapted for point games over 100 points. I found that if both players were playing imperial (something I would discourige) that 3'x3'' seemed very cramped. We had a lot of difficulty avoiding collisions and losing our actions.

I measured all my play surfaces last night and was astonished to find that I have no 3x3 surfaces (except for the floor, which is far too dangerous in my opinion). Finding that size is harder than I thought.

What I've done for skirmish gaming at home (Most skirmish games play on a 3x3 surface) was to make a board I could just put on a table. I went to Home Depot and had them cut a piece of ply wood to a 3x3 size. Then I sanded the edges to smooth the cut. After that, I used a cheap dollar paint brush to spread wood glue in a thin layer on the surface. I then placed a slightly over sized piece of felt on it (If the glue is on to thick it will bleed through. I then used a metal ruler to smooth down and make it look good ( a roller of some sort would be easier though.

In all parts probably cost me 40 - 45 dollars, but now I have a nice play surface for at home.

MrDNA said:

What I've done for skirmish gaming at home (Most skirmish games play on a 3x3 surface) was to make a board I could just put on a table. I went to Home Depot and had them cut a piece of ply wood to a 3x3 size. Then I sanded the edges to smooth the cut. After that, I used a cheap dollar paint brush to spread wood glue in a thin layer on the surface. I then placed a slightly over sized piece of felt on it (If the glue is on to thick it will bleed through. I then used a metal ruler to smooth down and make it look good ( a roller of some sort would be easier though.

In all parts probably cost me 40 - 45 dollars, but now I have a nice play surface for at home.

cool, picts please

I just finished a weekend project to build a table topper game table. I already had a poker tale, but the surface was just a bit too narrow (about 22 inches on the short side). So this was my project:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table1.jpg

a 4x6 piece of plywood with 11/32 quarter round around the edge and 2 pieces of 11/32 x 11/32 edging out a 4x4 play area.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table2.jpg

Primed and painted with Rustoleum flat black.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table3.jpg

I used acrylics and sponges to create the "nebula" and a asic splatter technique for the stars. I had some help from the kids on this one.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table4.jpg

In action! the only thing left for me to do is seal it with a coat of polyurethane, which I'll proaly do next weekend.

Enjoy!!!

One word . . . AWESOME!

Purely awesome.

FYI -- the 3rd link is not working.

Try it again. Photobucket was being a bit wonky earlier. Seems to be working now. And thanks for the kudos!

I bought a piece of black felt at Joann Fabrics. It is 36 inches by 72 inches. So, I can fold it in half and have a 3 foot by 3 foot area for smaller games, or spread it out and have a 3 foot by 6 foot area for larger games. Looks great (since it's black it has a space feel to it), works well since it's heavy fabric, is portable since it folds/rolls up nicely, and it fits nicely on my dining room table. All for less than $9 including tax.

El_Tonio said:

I bought a piece of black felt at Joann Fabrics. It is 36 inches by 72 inches. So, I can fold it in half and have a 3 foot by 3 foot area for smaller games, or spread it out and have a 3 foot by 6 foot area for larger games. Looks great (since it's black it has a space feel to it), works well since it's heavy fabric, is portable since it folds/rolls up nicely, and it fits nicely on my dining room table. All for less than $9 including tax.

I did about the same thing. JoAnn had a 72" wide black felt with glitter built into it. 2 yards cost me $8.42. My wife cut it into one 3' x 6' play area and two 3' x3' play areas. My cousin who also got the game at GenCon was the happy recipient of the extra 3x3.

The last time I saw that much enjoyment from a gift that cost $2.10 or less was my son playing with the boxes his Christmas presents came in. The glitter on the felt is just awesome since it gives the map a sense of movement as you move around.

Highball said:

El_Tonio said:

I bought a piece of black felt at Joann Fabrics. It is 36 inches by 72 inches. So, I can fold it in half and have a 3 foot by 3 foot area for smaller games, or spread it out and have a 3 foot by 6 foot area for larger games. Looks great (since it's black it has a space feel to it), works well since it's heavy fabric, is portable since it folds/rolls up nicely, and it fits nicely on my dining room table. All for less than $9 including tax.

I did about the same thing. JoAnn had a 72" wide black felt with glitter built into it. 2 yards cost me $8.42. My wife cut it into one 3' x 6' play area and two 3' x3' play areas. My cousin who also got the game at GenCon was the happy recipient of the extra 3x3.

The last time I saw that much enjoyment from a gift that cost $2.10 or less was my son playing with the boxes his Christmas presents came in. The glitter on the felt is just awesome since it gives the map a sense of movement as you move around.

Wow, I'm going to have to go to JoAnn's and look for something like that. Sounds perfect!

Sir Not said:

I just finished a weekend project to build a table topper game table. I already had a poker tale, but the surface was just a bit too narrow (about 22 inches on the short side). So this was my project:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table1.jpg

a 4x6 piece of plywood with 11/32 quarter round around the edge and 2 pieces of 11/32 x 11/32 edging out a 4x4 play area.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table2.jpg

Primed and painted with Rustoleum flat black.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table3.jpg

I used acrylics and sponges to create the "nebula" and a asic splatter technique for the stars. I had some help from the kids on this one.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/SirNot/Table4.jpg

In action! the only thing left for me to do is seal it with a coat of polyurethane, which I'll proaly do next weekend.

Enjoy!!!

First thing I have to say it that you have a great looking table there. I am a little jealous. But I have a question for you. Did you think about putting felt on the table and then painting over that. I'm asking because I was trying to play a game this weekend on a table without any cloth and we had problems with accidentally rubbing up against the table and having the ships move. Have you had that problem?

Roy

i did that years ago for mechwarrior, but they pilled and after about a year they had to be redone. bumpage is always a concern in any minis game thats not played on a grid, even on a felted surface. in fact felt will make the models more likely to topple when bumped. i say do what works for you. not everyone wants to drop sixty bucks and a weekend on a game board. i needed the space anyway for other games so i will get my moneys worth. what im thinking of doing is using poster putty on the bottom of the bases one i get the ployurethane down to controle bumps.

happy gaming

I was looking online at Joanne Fabrics for a space print. Couldn't find anything though, just black.

I am new to miniature gaming, and was wondering (especially since there is no grid to play on) if moving the pieces by accident was a problem. If it is, i was wondering if you could get some felt for the playing area and putting some stick on velcro on the bottom of the figures to get them to stick a bit.

X-Wing's unique movement rules make slight bumps even more of a problem then in other mini games I have played. A slight difference of only a degree or so could mean the difference between a collision (losing your action) or not.

RockSoldier said:

I was looking online at Joanne Fabrics for a space print. Couldn't find anything though, just black.

I am new to miniature gaming, and was wondering (especially since there is no grid to play on) if moving the pieces by accident was a problem. If it is, i was wondering if you could get some felt for the playing area and putting some stick on velcro on the bottom of the figures to get them to stick a bit.

Yeah, I was looking for the same type of star fabric too. That's why I ended up with the glitter one and it looks great!

The felt on the bottom of the models sounds good, but I would be worried about them not being legal for tournaments since the rules say that while bases can be modified by adding weight, the dimensions including verticle can not be altered. I can't remember if this is in the regular rules or the tournament rules though.

Highball said:

RockSoldier said:

I was looking online at Joanne Fabrics for a space print. Couldn't find anything though, just black.

I am new to miniature gaming, and was wondering (especially since there is no grid to play on) if moving the pieces by accident was a problem. If it is, i was wondering if you could get some felt for the playing area and putting some stick on velcro on the bottom of the figures to get them to stick a bit.

Im not sure that this is a good idea… In my experience of using velcro on felt, the felt always tugs away from the surface slightly when removing the velcro'd item. this would likely cause nearby models to move and the play surface to become stretched and unusable… I would think a hard surface and taking care not to knock models is proabbly better…

Highball said:

RockSoldier said:

I was looking online at Joanne Fabrics for a space print. Couldn't find anything though, just black.

I am new to miniature gaming, and was wondering (especially since there is no grid to play on) if moving the pieces by accident was a problem. If it is, i was wondering if you could get some felt for the playing area and putting some stick on velcro on the bottom of the figures to get them to stick a bit.

Yeah, I was looking for the same type of star fabric too. That's why I ended up with the glitter one and it looks great!

The felt on the bottom of the models sounds good, but I would be worried about them not being legal for tournaments since the rules say that while bases can be modified by adding weight, the dimensions including verticle can not be altered. I can't remember if this is in the regular rules or the tournament rules though.

Highball said:

RockSoldier said:

I was looking online at Joanne Fabrics for a space print. Couldn't find anything though, just black.

I am new to miniature gaming, and was wondering (especially since there is no grid to play on) if moving the pieces by accident was a problem. If it is, i was wondering if you could get some felt for the playing area and putting some stick on velcro on the bottom of the figures to get them to stick a bit.

Im not sure that this is a good idea… In my experience of using velcro on felt, the felt always tugs away from the surface slightly when removing the velcro'd item. this would likely cause nearby models to move and the play surface to become stretched and unusable… I would think a hard surface and taking care not to knock models is probably better…

Joanna had a Labor Day sale of 50% off felt. My wife got me a 54" x 54" piece of black and some cloth markers/paints. I figure I will line out a 3'x3' area for a base game, but have the larger piece of felt if I want more space.

Thanks,

Duncan

Joann Fabric actually had two very cool fabric with stars on it (see below -- I especially like the black one). But, it was not as heavy as the felt and tended to bunch up when I tested it, so I went with simple black felt instead. I thought about the black with glitter on it, but the glitter seemed to fall off and I didn't want to deal with the mess. It might get better after a little time, though (in which case I agree that is a better option as the glitter makes it look a little more like stars in space).

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There's just something about grown men looking for glittery fabric that makes me laugh. It's nice to see that we'll do anything for our games.

Budgernaut said:

There's just something about grown men looking for glittery fabric that makes me laugh. It's nice to see that we'll do anything for our games.

Even worse: I was the only guy in the store when I was there, standing with a group of women at the fabric cutting desk. I got a ton of odd looks.

Worse yet: When the cutting lady asked me what I was using this for I lied and told her it was for a craft project for my son. The reason this is a lie is that my son is 1 year old, but she didn't need to know that.

Highball said:

Budgernaut said:

There's just something about grown men looking for glittery fabric that makes me laugh. It's nice to see that we'll do anything for our games.

Even worse: I was the only guy in the store when I was there, standing with a group of women at the fabric cutting desk. I got a ton of odd looks.

Worse yet: When the cutting lady asked me what I was using this for I lied and told her it was for a craft project for my son. The reason this is a lie is that my son is 1 year old, but she didn't need to know that.

haha…. I got those looks too. Walmart has some awesome fabric for this. I'll try to get a pic and post it up tonight.

On the same topic, I had to do this several times in both fabric stores, hardware stores and radio shack when I was constructing my Stormtrooper armor. There's just something silly about needing assistance from the nice ladies in those stores, and then having to tell them you're making a costume!