I thought you could not play any split card that had an action side, because while it is in your hand, it is an action.

When played, it's no longer an action. That's a rules issue, though, so that's better left there...

Chun-Li is in no way, shape, or form, broken. She's strong. That's about it. Plenty of counters, and she certainly doesn't break the game. Without even putting my thinking cap on for something clever, I can think of at least six counters for her ability, across a number of different symbols.

Those of you who brought up that Talbain was banned - you do realize that they *didn't* ban him because of the complaints on the forums, right? They have playtesters, and they also watch how things perform in tournaments (or at least I'd assume the latter, given Chester's not being legal at Worlds, the banning of Ibuki, Hugo, CSS, Happy Holidays, the list goes on).

Those of you who brought up Talbain in the other way - correct. People will always find something to complain about.

...which is probably why they made a note of telling us that they don't ban things based on constant threads about them on the forums.

I hate threads like these...sigh.

Mulciber113 said:

Just also like to add she can play jivatma's stuff ( I.E The ways of punishment to empty their hand at nearly no cost in the early gmae!)

I hate it that Mika and Li have access to jivatma's cards.

Stupid.

Cheers

Hanzo.

Hanzo said:

By the time TWoP should come down, even if it's turn 1, Chun Li's ability is irrelevant.

Seriously people, she's good but people use her ability as a crutch far too often. There's no SURPRISE! factor as she is present on the board so you know what you're going up against. If her ability had been printed on an action it'd be MUCH more devastating because you'd never know if the opponent had it or not.

Going against Chunners? Mulligan for an answer. Her ability is irrelevant turn 1 where she can pretty much only drop a decent foundation, and if you can shut her off turn two with any of the dooooozens of answers available to you (have you even considered CONTROLLING THEIR MOMENTUM OMGNOSPIKEMULTI?!) then you've given yourself the necessary window to win the game.

Because outside of that, she's just another air character with no real longevity.

So the trend continues.... I've been keeping track of these lately, we've had Ibuki, then Alex, then Talbain, then Hanzo, then Talbain again now Chun-Li. Poor gal can't get a break, can she? She's had lackluster character one after another and when she finally makes a breakthrough, people want her gone.

I wouldn't call her broken at all, if anything I'd call her a step in the right direction for the game. Aggressive behaviour needs to exist so that counter has something to stop other than itself, because, lets be frank, that got dull with Addes Syndicate and Olcadan's Mentoring. I've found that while she is a character youy have to bear in mind while you play, and I couldn't beat her for a very long time (still haven't really), there are plenty of ways to deal with her that don't SPECIFICALLY deal with her, like Inhuman Perception, which can be used for all manner of different reasons. I actually find her very fun to play against because it's a fast-paced challenge like it used to be, rather than foundation after foundation after foundation.

Roll on Chun-Li, I say, may your thighs live long and prosper!

You get a cookie, Mr. V. Joe.

Because that is exactly the truth.

i'm prefacing this post with this: "i read the OP, and i refuse to wade thru 4 pages to say what i say next"

NO, she is not too broken for worlds. maybe if worlds was an "air only" event where the only answer to her was tag along.

as is, there's R negation, wholesale negation in SoC, haxx, handstrip, etc. use them.

Omar apparently enjoys failing by adding the letter "l" to things.

Archimedes said:

1) the hell you talking about?

2) i'm calling you kilik from now on. the resemblance is SPECTACULAR

GouHadou said:

*cough*Inhuman Perception*cough*

Let me just stop and mention here that i played agaisnt omars build of her with a few of my decks and Hanzo kick beat her a good 50% of the time just buy going balls out against her with the loop. Point being she can be beaten by random other aggro, hanzo is just decent at it cause he dosent need foundations to win with the right set up.

Past that every void deck i played to strip his hand on my first attack left him stunned and inefffectual come second form when he had nothing to play. Earth and evil have this ability as well.

GouHadou said:

OP says, "chun li too broken for words ????"

As in, sentence-fragment alluding to Chun Li being too powerful to describe using the English language.

I'm going to throw this in based on the answer to another question I got about the difference between "non-attack" and "non-attack card"

From James Hata:
To answer your question simply, there is no differentiation between "non-attack" and "non-attack card." This is more or less a templating issue more-so than an in-game effect.

So the way I see it, the card in your hand is still an action if its a split card, and you shouldnt be able to play it.

GouHadou said:

1) Look at your post, then look at the title of the thread

2) Ok :3

Archimedes said:

I'm fairly certain he meant to say worlds. Since his next sentence was "maybe if worlds was an air only event". Since, if words was and air only event, would sound weirder.

tannerface said:

Thats not the point, the point is the topic creater said too broken for "WORDS" and Omar seemed to see the word "WORLDS" and respond to it. Thats I believe what Arch is referring to

In either event chun li is just fine.

Protoaddict said:

I don't think you can say she is just fine. I'm pretty sure she has enough fanboys to establish that she is superfine .

FenMiHuo said:

has been previously ruled otherwise and the rulings are final

Chun-Li is fugly. Man-legs FTL.

Seriously.

But I make this point on our tournament days when our Chun-Li fanboy (hi Robert) is there, so I'll stop beating that dead horse. For now.

GouHadou said:

^- pretty much sums up my opinion of this thread.

Run more Zangief, then laugh at her puny little chinese legs trying to pitifully kick you.

ok, so next time i won't post after an allnight binge of sf4.

but as fred pointed out, i have plenty of words to use on the topic of the agent, and so do many others.
there haven't been many cards besides a few in the first crop of bannings that were too broken for words. Enlightenment is one such card.

Holy balls was Enlightenment broken.

Archimedes said:

How fast did that hit the hammer? I can't remember.

Also whoever made it shou;d've been fired. There I said it.