Revenant´s Calling vs manifest destiny

By Darkon01, in UFS Rules Q & A

my opponent play a card X, activate manifest destiny for commit revenat´s calling, but at same time i activate revenant´s calling response....

my question is, what effect resolve first? revenant´s calling or manifest destiny?

If they have more than one copy of Manifest Destiny in play, you can respond to them playing the R on Manifest Destiny before they commit your Revenant's Calling, you won't be able to commit manifest destiny if they only have one in play, because it'll already be committed. They way it works is, they play a card, and say they are gonna respond with Manifest Destiny. When they say they are going to play Manifest Destiny's response, they dont have to declare what they are committing..if they do, its just giving away information, they just have to pay the cost. Once they pay the cost, the ability is played, and you respond with Revenant's Calling.

since you would be reacting with reventants calling to manifest destiny your reventants calling would resolve first but at that point the manifest destiny has already gone off and will commit your reventants calling anyway

Darkon01 said:

my opponent play a card X, activate manifest destiny for commit revenat´s calling, but at same time i activate revenant´s calling response....

my question is, what effect resolve first? revenant´s calling or manifest destiny?

It kinda works like the stack in magic in a way that revenants will resolve first since last in first out kinda rule then manifest will commit revenants unless the other play has a way to negate manifest.

the manifest will not commit rev's, as it's committed already. they can just pick any legal target at that point.

i´m forget something, my opponet have 3 manifest destiny in his stanging area, then can i respose with revenant´s calling, before de response of manifiest destiny?, i understood whati have correct?

You still should be able to trigger the 3 manifest destinies before revenants will resolve however the opponent can respond with revenants each time if they want too .

GouHadou said:

the manifest will not commit rev's, as it's committed already. they can just pick any legal target at that point.

Why is it committed, again? That ability doesn't have a commit cost =/

Okay, let's put it this way.

UFS does not have any targeting when you play an ability.

When your opponent plays the ability on Manifest Destiny (the response trigger for Revenant's Calling), you STOP here. The MD player does not declare any target for the commit effect yet. If the RC player responds, then unless there is a further response to RC being played, RC will resolve immediately, committing another copy of MD in play.

Once that's done, the Manifest resolves and its player chooses what to commit.

Note that RC effectively 'interrupts' the ability it responds to after costs have been paid but before any effects resolve.

GouHadou said:

the manifest will not commit rev's, as it's committed already. they can just pick any legal target at that point.

Yea not sure what Omar is talking about here but like Tag said Revs resolves first.

If you have 3 Manifests and your opponent has a revenants calling, you would respond with the first manifest, they would then respond with revenants. Revenants would resolve committing the 2nd manifest, your manifest would resolve committing revenants, then you would be back to the trigger and could respond with your 3rd (still ready) manifest. From other rulings on how triggers work this is how I see multiple MD's working in this situation

nvm what i wrote about RC - i thought it was a commit cost for some reason.

Tag spelled it out beautifully :D