Hi - thanks in advance for looking at this. Here's the situation:

Player A has Rhaegal and Mereen out. Player A kneels Rhaegal to attack, and then kneels Mereen to make him immune to his opponent's triggered effects. Player B declares a defender and kneels Painted Table. Player A wins the challenge. Now Rhaegal's response triggers: to claim one power for each participating dragon. Is it cancelled by Painted Table?

At first we thought no, because Rhaegal's immunity to triggered effects makes him immune to Painted Table's cancel, which itself is a triggered effect. But then we thought yes, because Painted Table doesn't actually target Rhaegal, it just indiscriminately cancels the "next" triggered effect; the immunity from Mereen doesn't purport to give Rhaegal's triggered effect the text, "cannot be cancelled."

Is either one of those analyses correct?

Thanks again.

The second analysis is correct. The cancel of the Dragon's ability is not a direct effect upon the character, so the Dragon's immunity to triggered effects does not protect its associated ability from being canceled.

Say what?

Different example, I try to save Cat O' the Canals with a dupe. Can my opponent cancel the save?

Also, there is an argument to be made that The Painted Table's Triggered Effect becomes a Lasting Effect (or some non-triggered effect) and therefore Meereen doesn't prevent it. Is that also the case?

mdc273 said:

(3.19) Scope of Immunity
Immunity only protects a card itself. Peripheral entities attached to or associated with a card, such as attachments, duplicates , power counters, gold tokens on the immune card, and also including triggered effects originating from the immune card , can still be affected by cards of the type to which that card is immune, as long as the affecting cards do not target the immune card.

mdc273 said:

mdc273 said:

Ok, so things have changed since the CCG Era =).

Thanks for the quick replies.

As a follow up, if the next triggered effect after Player B kneels Painted Table is the Response ability from Player A's The Maester's Path agenda, Painted table tries to cancel it, fails because agenda effects cannot be canceled, and the lasting effect from the Table is over?

Vaapad said:

Immune Red Viper's duplicate save can be countered by the He calls it thinking?

(3.19) Scope of Immunity
Immunity only protects a card itself. Peripheral entities attached to or associated with a card, such as attachments, duplicates, power counters, gold tokens on the immune card, and also including triggered effects originating from the immune card, can still be affected by cards of the type to which that card is immune, as long as the affecting cards do not target the immune card.

Yep, it can be cancelled for the same reason Cat o the canals can be (see above)